VAR thread

[Cormack74]

I played golf there about 25 years ago, it was called Stockley Park Arena back then. What was the arena?

Just a name by the look of it . . . The GC gets a mention:

https://completelyretail.co.uk/scheme/The-Arena-Stockley-Park-Uxbridge

[Buzzo]

FIFA chief of global development Arsene Wenger has a plan to change the rule which would mean if any part of the attacking players body that he can score with is onside then the player would be considered onside, essentially the opposite from the current rule.

As per The Times, FIFA will bring the new rule to the International FA Board, who decide the rules, at a meeting on February 29th and it could be passed into law by June 1st.

Speaking about offsides and VAR the Frenchman said, "The most difficult [issue] that people have [with VAR] is the offside rule. You have had offsides by a fraction of a centimetre, literally by a nose. It is the time to do this quickly.

"There is room to change the rule and not say that a part of a player's nose is offside, so you are offside because you can score with that. Instead, you will be not offside if any part of the body that can score a goal is in line with the last defender, even if other parts of the attacker's body are in front.

"That will sort it out and you will no longer have decisions about millimetres and a fraction of the attacker being in front of the defensive line."

However the new rule is already receiving criticism that it goes too far the other way and will give attackers a much bigger advantage.

If the rule was brought in with no trial period needed just 12 days before the Euros it could completely change the tournament, being played throughout Europe, and leave teams with little time to prepare how to defend differently.

The Premier League want to change how VAR works with offside by increasing the thickness of the line that is used in the system to prove whether a player is in an offside position or not.

That would allow for more leeway whilst keeping the rule the same, and that proposal will also go to the IFAB meeting in Belfast.

The last time IFAB changed the offside rule dramatically was in 1990 when it was changed to allow attackers to be level with the last defender, when previously they had to be behind.

[spud_gun]

IMO the introduction of any gray areas here is madness. Your either offside or you're not.

The issue I have is with the human interpretation of who's offside and who's not.

A Hawkeye style system should be introduced to determine if a player is offside. Take the judgement out of officials hands.

[dom9]

Yep, that proposal does nothing to fix any of the problems inherent in how offside is currently judged.

It's also been said that it might force teams to become more defensive again.

Despite the car crash of VAR, you could argue that we're in a golden age of football. So many teams are trying to play "the right way", with varying levels of success of course. But football is generally more attractive to watch right now as I can ever remember it being *.

* Unless you're watching a Mourinho team.

[baitman]

Its only a change of where the micro margin is, so no big deal.

Maybe would allow for more goals so possibly better???

[Buzzo]

Agree they don’t seem to appreciate that so long as there is a line there is an issue. Though this way allows for more goals so could be better.

The PL’s idea of making the line thicker amused me. They should also consider requesting a lower resolution image to work from.

[dom9]

Agree they don’t seem to appreciate that so long as there is a line there is an issue. Though this way allows for more goals so could be better.

The PL’s idea of making the line thicker amused me. They should also consider requesting a lower resolution image to work from.

If defences defend even deeper, then it might actually result in fewer goals.

No one knows.

[Buzzo]

If defences defend even deeper, then it might actually result in fewer goals.

No one knows.

Fair point.

[Exiled_red]

Agree they don’t seem to appreciate that so long as there is a line there is an issue. Though this way allows for more goals so could be better.

The PL’s idea of making the line thicker amused me. They should also consider requesting a lower resolution image to work from.

I get that this 'Wenger proposal' gives more of an advantage to the attacker than the current rule, but it doesn't make the interpretation any easier, it is still two lines and the same analysis, it just the lines are in slightly different places, I don't get how so many people miss this

[ChesterDave]

I get that this 'Wenger proposal' gives more of an advantage to the attacker than the current rule, but it doesn't make the interpretation any easier, it is still two lines and the same analysis, it just the lines are in slightly different places, I don't get how so many people miss this

it just changes where the argument occurs. Doesn't fix the problem

[Cormack74]

Arsene Wenger has a plan to change the rule which would mean if any part of the attacking players body that he can score with is onside then the player would be considered onside, essentially the opposite from the current rule.

That's bonkers - Peter Crouch probably had a stride pattern of a yard and a half so he could be miles in front of the last defender with his leading leg but still 'onside' with his trailing leg

[Fosterbloke]

I hope they actually play a few matches with coaches iterating on tactics to counter and take advantage of this rule - evolution sped up.

I reckon you'll see silly freekicks with attackers dabbing their foot onside before sprinting off and defenders running away from goal to catch them offside (or simply lying really deep). Football will resemble NFL before long.

[Kenneth]

[ame]https://twitter.com/blancosjee/status/1236354279897735168[/ame]

VAR says no red

[Norbs]

He's a wee cunt that Messi. Hope someone breaks his leg soon

[Harv]

I hate Messi, he's a prick of the highest order - but thats not a red. He's got nowhere else to put his foot.
He's running full pelt and stretching to keep the ball in, you cant just suddenly change your body mechanics because a defender has decided to slide in and wrap his legs around. This is all happening in a split second.