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    Originally posted by poorscousertommy View Post
    The worst part is that I think a few of them are actually English!

    Can you imagine a Scot or a Welshman going into every game hoping they'd lose!! It would never happen. Odd people.
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      Originally posted by fabinho View Post
      I don't disagree with any of that, and I've called Salah and Mane out for it in a few match threads,but the game is what it is now.

      VAR has been a massive letdown for me. Clear and obvious diving should be punished harshly, and if they can't decide an offside in 10 seconds, the advantage should go with the attacker.

      I wasn't even bothered about England a month ago, but the fume on here and in Wales has pushed me into backing them more than ever. I'm absolutely sick to death of the same people posting the same anti english ****e, "ingerlaand", "knuckle draggers", "hooligans", "racists", its just a constanst stream of negativity.
      Nobody on here has said any of that though (knuckle draggers etc)

      But I’m all for people supporting their country. If you are English, you should be well chuffed this morning. Your country is in a final - that almost never happens.

      But, for the most part there are a lot of Irish, Welsh and Scots who post on here also. Natural rivals of England so probably don’t expect too much support from them, because as closest rivals that isn’t going to happen.

      For my part I went to school on the Channel Islands so most of my school friends are English, and, if England do win I will be genuinely delighted for. I’m in a WhatsApp group with them which is my own personal purgatory, but it was a good laugh with some of the banter last night. Does this mean I will be supporting England and enjoying the theatrics and diving? Not a chance. That’s how rivalries work.

      There is an element of the England support that is totally undesirable, but by this stage they are drowned out as the rest of the nation gets involved.

      Enjoy it mate, but don’t solely enjoy it because people from other countries don’t want England to win. Enjoy it because you are English and you have a chance of winning a final
      Last edited by Buzzo; 08-07-21, 09:50 AM.
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        Originally posted by fabinho View Post
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        I wasn't even bothered about England a month ago, but the fume on here and in Wales has pushed me into backing them more than ever. I'm absolutely sick to death of the same people posting the same anti english ****e, "ingerlaand", "knuckle draggers", "hooligans", "racists", its just a constanst stream of negativity.

        No, work away lad. I think its important to remember theres plenty of decent England fans who are quite rightly caught up in the tournament progress, and fair play.
        I think most fans/onlookers are put out by the other element, which to be fair, is probably sizable enough in comparison to other finalists, certainly given the attendance numbers at Wembley, giving a somewhat unsavoury impression (booing the entire anthem of another country...who does that ). But they are still just a minority, with everyone else just getting behind their country's progress.

        Frankly, I want Italy to win just primarily because of Rio Ferdinand and his interminable carry-on, and I'm making no apologies for that. Unfortunately, that overrules any sort of well wishing I'd like to give Henderson (especially seeing as how he's not a fixture right now).
        "I will make the boys feel your support"
        Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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          Originally posted by McDermotX View Post

          No, work away lad. I think its important to remember theres plenty of decent England fans who are quite rightly caught up in the tournament progress, and fair play.
          I think most fans/onlookers are put out by the other element, which to be fair, is probably sizable enough in comparison to other finalists, certainly given the attendance numbers at Wembley, giving a somewhat unsavoury impression (booing the entire anthem of another country...who does that ). But they are still just a minority, with everyone else just getting behind their country's progress.

          Frankly, I want Italy to win just primarily because of Rio Ferdinand and his interminable carry-on, and I'm making no apologies for that. Unfortunately, that overrules any sort of well wishing I'd like to give Henderson (especially seeing as how he's not a fixture right now).
          Theres an unsavoury element no doubt, but a minority as you say, unfortunately a small group can make loud noises. I'm not opposed to every home nation hoping for an Italy win, thats what makes competition great. In fact, I'd think it a little odd to be supporting England. Its the other side that annoys me, the generalisation of all england fans based on the behaviour of a minority. We wouldn't accept for our fans at LFC so shouldnt participate in it elsewhere.

          Half of me agrees with you on Ferdinand
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            Originally posted by fabinho View Post
            Theres an unsavoury element no doubt, but a minority as you say, unfortunately a small group can make loud noises. I'm not opposed to every home nation hoping for an Italy win, thats what makes competition great. In fact, I'd think it a little odd to be supporting England. Its the other side that annoys me, the generalisation of all england fans based on the behaviour of a minority. We wouldn't accept for our fans at LFC so shouldnt participate in it elsewhere.

            Half of me agrees with you on Ferdinand


            I actually feel very sorry for the majority of England fans who struggle to get that connection. And the holligan element has definitely taken so many headlines over the years.

            The home nations rivalry is so important, its a shame we dont get the home nations cup like we did in the 80's. Though now adays it is perhaps a logistical nightmare. Most of it is bourne out of the fact that there is a dominant party, and it has ever been thus.

            I used to get loads of mates saying, why dont you support England, we would support Scotland if it was you.

            A. It never is.
            B. I dont want the backing of loads of England supporters should we ever get a moment to celebrate.
            C. Its a rivalry, thats kind of how these things work!!!
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              Originally posted by fabinho View Post
              The worst part is that I think a few of them are actually English!

              Can you imagine a Scot or a Welshman going into every game hoping they'd lose!! It would never happen. Odd people.
              Yeah, **** England (my country), so by extension, **** the England team. I feel no connection with them, they aren’t my team.
              Last edited by Kenneth; 08-07-21, 11:15 AM.
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                Anyone know where i can get a bet on a Pickford error leading to a goal for Sunday. Asking for a friend.

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                  Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                  Anyone know where i can get a bet on a Pickford error leading to a goal for Sunday. Asking for a friend.


                  He is definitely building up for something.

                  It is as if he cannot help himself. He makes some great saves, and has been really good (tbf) in the tournament, but you cant avoid the sense that part of his subconscious is desperate to get some headlines.
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                    He was at fault for the Danish goal last night.

                    Good freekick but it wasn't into the corner. It was entirely saveable.

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                      Yup, from behind the goal you could really see those t-rex arms extending forward rather than to the side
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                        Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                        I reckon Shaggy got leathered last night and had the best day of his life, proudly singing 3 lions.


                        I know what you meant by this, but it still made me giggle because getting leathered in Ireland means you got a hiding or a kicking.


                        It put an image in my head of a bruised and bloodied Shaggy still belting out Three Lions
                        I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


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                          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                          Nobody on here has said any of that though (knuckle draggers etc)

                          But I’m all for people supporting their country. If you are English, you should be well chuffed this morning. Your country is in a final - that almost never happens.

                          But, for the most part there are a lot of Irish, Welsh and Scots who post on here also. Natural rivals of England so probably don’t expect too much support from them, because as closest rivals that isn’t going to happen.

                          For my part I went to school on the Channel Islands so most of my school friends are English, and, if England do win I will be genuinely delighted for. I’m in a WhatsApp group with them which is my own personal purgatory, but it was a good laugh with some of the banter last night. Does this mean I will be supporting England and enjoying the theatrics and diving? Not a chance. That’s how rivalries work.

                          There is an element of the England support that is totally undesirable, but by this stage they are drowned out as the rest of the nation gets involved.

                          Enjoy it mate, but don’t solely enjoy it because people from other countries don’t want England to win. Enjoy it because you are English and you have a chance of winning a final


                          Am Irish and do not really care one way or another if England win or lose as don't have any strong feeling for or against them.


                          Think for me to feel any rivalry for the English football team there would have to be a semi decent Irish national team. Right now the natural footballing rivals for the ROI team are giants of the game like North Macedonia.


                          Come the weekend I can happily sit on the fence and in game lean towards whichever team is playing the better football or being the bigger ****houses.

                          I do want to see Pickford **** up in some way or another though and find a way to come out of it as public enemy number one even if Engalnd win the final.
                          I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.


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                            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                            Yeah, **** England (my country), so by extensions, **** the England team. I feel no connection with them, they aren’t my team.
                            I understand not being arsed, but hating your country so much that you want them to lose is a little odd?
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                              That free kick, and the danish "false wall shuffle" was great, more teams will use that

                              Id love to see the camera angle so we can see what that looked like from the goalies perspective.
                              removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                              too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                                I want England to win so they can display solidarity with black lives matters as major tournament winners and **** off all the racist cunts.
                                Was muß, das muß.

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