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    Originally posted by wiw View Post
    I think that's quite unfair on him tbh, over his time here he excelled at right wing (when we were fairly ****e and he transformed us to a degree), left wing and striker. All the while he worked his bollocks off defensively every single game.

    Of course he benefitted from our system, but surely you can be world class in the role you play in a system?
    Depends how you define 'world class' though really.

    My point was that you take him out of the system that our then elite stats gurus determined he was born to play and he'd be nowhere near as effective. Which has been the case at Bayern (so far)

    Looking at our transfers its been the case with many of them tbs. Taking players out of relative obscurity and then suddenly they are world class (for us). Salah, Jota, Robbo et al
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      Originally posted by Harv View Post
      Depends how you define 'world class' though really.

      My point was that you take him out of the system that our then elite stats gurus determined he was born to play and he'd be nowhere near as effective. Which has been the case at Bayern (so far)

      Looking at our transfers its been the case with many of them tbs. Taking players out of relative obscurity and then suddenly they are world class (for us). Salah, Jota, Robbo et al

      Salah was doing very well at Roma for the two seasons before we got him and was regularly getting into team of the season listings. He was a 1 in 2 goal scorer from the wing in Serie A for his entire time at Roma. We bought him just as he was starting to enter his peak years.


      As for Mane now looking nowhere close to how good he looked for us in his prime, well that is probably more to do with him being a few years past his prime. He was getting double figures in the league for each season he was at Southampton, then as with Salah, we bought him as he entered his peak years.


      Think both Salah and Mane would have been big successes for whatever big club bought them at that point in their careers, we were just lucky that we got them and had a manager that was able to get them performing top their max capabilities.
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        Villa 1 nil up.

        Coogan has done a great job there.
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        Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

        Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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          Two up. All it took was them to get rid of Gerrard to make them legitimately better than us.
          Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
            Two up. All it took was them to get rid of Gerrard to make them legitimately better than us.
            Three up now, they are certainly in a good run of form, not sure they are better.

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              12 points from 12 played under Gerrard this season.
              35 points from 17 under Emery.

              They’re definitely much better.

              Edit - just realised you meant compared to LFC rather than how they were previously under Gerrard.

              Though their points per game since Emery took over is better than ours this season.
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                Ollie Watkins was brilliant in that match.
                Modifying post.

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                  Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
                  12 points from 12 played under Gerrard this season.
                  35 points from 17 under Emery.

                  They’re definitely much better.
                  They’ve got some really good players, it’s just Gerrard is a **** manager

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                    Everton draw level after Fulham took the lead. Very important for them with Wolves winning.If West Ham can get a win and a draw from their games in hand the bottom of the league will look less wide open. Will become a bottom 5 or 6 soon enough.
                    Football without Origi is nothing

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                      Fulham leading again, Bournemouth turned it around at Spurs. EVERTON ARE GOING DOWN!
                      Football without Origi is nothing

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                        Fulham 3-1 up Vs Everton now
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                          For the love of God I need something from this football season please let it be
                          Football without Origi is nothing

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                            Everton are going to stay up by virtue of how **** the other teams down there are

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                              I've just put the everton game on just in time for the boo's
                              removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                              too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                                Sounds like score flattered everton.

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                                who's arsed?

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