Euro 2024

[Irishnev]

Tony Daley?

I think he has the potential to be as good as Mane.

I find him frustrating and a bit “dumb winger”….. Tony Daly comparisons was a bit harsh

He took his goal well in the end

[Exiled_red]

For me the problem with England is the lack of a system, they have the players but attack wise in particular it seems like the thought is we've got Kane, Bellingham, Saka and Foden all quality players just having them on the pitch is enough, rather than picking a front 4 that work together. Maybe that means leaving Kane out for Watkins or something, which some may think reduces the amount of individual quality on the pitch, but if it makes the team more cohesive IMO it's worth it. For me almost every open play goal in the knock out stage came from individual quality rather than good link up or team work and that's a problem

[SB]

Kane needs to go. He’s absolutely useless against a decent side. He’ll score the odd goal still but at the cost of us playing to other players strengths .

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[spud_gun]

Kane needs to go. He’s absolutely useless against a decent side. He’ll score the odd goal still but at the cost of us playing to other players strengths .

He didn't look fit all tournament

[DerKrampus]

Southgate is a weak manager, weak tactically and weak personaility wise.

No way a stronger manager would keep Kane in the team.

I think someone like Eddie Howe would do well, he sets his teams with simple instructions and clearly communicates well, and above all, loves to attack.

[Kenneth]

He seems to be good at developing a strong team ethos and he’s good at media management, but he’s ****ing clueless at everything but else. You can see why he’s the darling of the FA suits, but he’s not brought England fans with him and his choices in this tournament have all been wrong.

“The subs were effective” because the starting lineup and system were terrible.

[SB]

He didn't look fit all tournament

Too much strudel & bratwurst

[danperkins]

If England won that, it would have read 'Southgate substitution masterclass', when the reality is he just started the wrong players once again. The lads that came on to save him should have started but he didn't have the balls to make the call.

Even with the best squad the competition & even with the easiest draw in the competition, they still managed to only play 45 mins of decent football throughout the whole tournament & that was in the first half vs the Dutch. They somehow managed in stumble their way to a final, getting outplayed by weaker opposition or playing negative defensive football and getting a lucky goal.

He seems like a nice bloke but he's he hasn't got a breeze tactically or how to setup to get the best out of the multitude of talent he has at his disposal. This was really the best chance they've had to finally win something again and they blew it. I'm not a huge fan of Spain and their general antics but they played by far the best out of any side and in the end, they deserved it. Football actually won this time around.

[paulg]

It doesn't seem to matter who the manager is England seem incapable, or unwilling, to play as a team. Lots of good individuals, a couple of very good ones, and it's always "coming home".

We get easy groups, lucky draws into knockouts and get beat by the first decent team we meet.

It's as if the players think they know better and play as they want, or ignore whoever the manager is and still play how they want. Then we get images of them crying after every tournament.

I stopped really supporting England a while back, cos I hate the media and especially the vocal fans singing old war and empire songs, coupled with the racist backlash when we lose. But I would like them to do well, through merit and not luck, someday.

[peterbread]

I’m surprised there’s been no mention of Pickford and his amazing distribution all game. Going long to no one constantly and giving the ball straight back to Spain.

[fidget]

I'm convinced the smug prick actually thought he was going to get player of the championship if they won.

[danperkins]

It doesn't seem to matter who the manager is England seem incapable, or unwilling, to play as a team. Lots of good individuals, a couple of very good ones, and it's always "coming home".

We get easy groups, lucky draws into knockouts and get beat by the first decent team we meet.

It's as if the players think they know better and play as they want, or ignore whoever the manager is and still play how they want. Then we get images of them crying after every tournament.

I stopped really supporting England a while back, cos I hate the media and especially the vocal fans singing old war and empire songs, coupled with the racist backlash when we lose. But I would like them to do well, through merit and not luck, someday.

there is a very tribal & toxic atmosphere around England in every competition & when things inevitably go tits up, the vitriol come out.

[Norbs]

It doesn't seem to matter who the manager is England seem incapable, or unwilling, to play as a team. Lots of good individuals, a couple of very good ones, and it's always "coming home".

We get easy groups, lucky draws into knockouts and get beat by the first decent team we meet.

It's as if the players think they know better and play as they want, or ignore whoever the manager is and still play how they want. Then we get images of them crying after every tournament.

I stopped really supporting England a while back, cos I hate the media and especially the vocal fans singing old war and empire songs, coupled with the racist backlash when we lose. But I would like them to do well, through merit and not luck, someday.

Take Pickford and Stones as a good example. Pickford's first objective is to get the ball as far away from his goal as possible, ignoring the fact that it usually means we lose possession and it's coming right back at him. Stones on the other hand is a cultured player, playing in a team happy in possession so wants the ball to feet to carry up field. I doubt they are that matey as neither will want to adapt to the other.

Southgate is a weak character, always has been. I'd imagine that playing under him feels a massive step down from Klopp, Giardiola and even Pochettino. Man U and Everton players seem happy enough, which figures

Every game Southgate started with a few players who'd underperformed in the game before. The players he brought on got England out of the **** and next game they were dropped again for his favourites. How many of the older guard played under him as U21 coach? I don't know the timeline but I bet Kane, Walker and Trippier did.

Trent scares the life out of him, Southgate has no place in his side for such a dynamic player. Trent pisses on Walker, the only aspect he loses out on is pace and there's no real need for pace the way England set up defensively

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It doesn't seem to matter who the manager is England seem incapable, or unwilling, to play as a team. Lots of good individuals, a couple of very good ones, and it's always "coming home".

We get easy groups, lucky draws into knockouts and get beat by the first decent team we meet.

It's as if the players think they know better and play as they want, or ignore whoever the manager is and still play how they want. Then we get images of them crying after every tournament.

I stopped really supporting England a while back, cos I hate the media and especially the vocal fans singing old war and empire songs, coupled with the racist backlash when we lose. But I would like them to do well, through merit and not luck, someday.

I think this team plays the way Southgate wants them to, they have played in a similar way the whole time he has been in charge, he is a manager who is able to get the defensive side of the game largely OK, perhaps due to playing 2 DMs, but attacking wise it's just get some good players on and hope they score, or win a penalty. They have had favourable draws in every tournament and a moment from an individual has got them through, they had 45 decent mins against the Dutch but other than that you struggle to think of a good performance against a decent team at a tournament.

The front 4 of Kane, Bellingham, Saka and Foden are quality players who have I think it was 114 goals between them last season but link up between them was almost non existent. They need to play to their strengths like they do at club level if they are to get the best out of them. If they can't play together there is Watkins, Cole-Palmer, Gordon etc bring one or more of those in and make a system that works. They aren’t short of quality players.