Over-reaction? I think so

[Jack D Rips]

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liverpoolfc/0100news/tm_headline=it-s-time-for-us-to-get-real%26method=full%26objectid=18436482%26siteid=50061-name_page.html

When you read this its very hard to disagre with it. Im one who is not too worried anout going out of the CC, although I am about the manner in which we did.

I remember well after the Birmingham match when Momo got injured, saying WTF was he playing in the CC for.

[Harv]

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0...name_page.html

When you read this its very hard to disagre with it. Im one who is not too worried anout going out of the CC, although I am about the manner in which we did.

I remember well after the Birmingham match when Momo got injured, saying WTF was he playing in the CC for.

thats a very open interview from rafa.....quite refreshing from his usual stuff.

He also must rate that McCarthy kid quite highly to mention him in an interviw like that.

on the negative side....doesnt sound good for Luis

[Shaggy]

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When you read this its very hard to disagre with it. Im one who is not too worried anout going out of the CC, although I am about the manner in which we did.

I remember well after the Birmingham match when Momo got injured, saying WTF was he playing in the CC for.

The kind of reaction I was looking for from Rafa. That should surely shut a few people up.

[Harv]

yeah we all wanted that kind of reaction...and he gave an honest reasoning for the game, and what he wants fixed etc....great to see. He hasn't had to do that very often.

[alunevans]

sorry mate, its just these other guys have got my back up...and im in "larry david mode" ATM. I know im not usually like that. I automatically thought you were just going to dash in- have a pop at me and leave.

its ok. i like larry david so you're forgiven.

i reckon we can all discuss footy, even with differing opinions, as mates though.

[Shaggy]

its ok. i like larry david so you're forgiven.

i reckon we can all discuss footy, even with differing opinions, as mates though.

Absolutely Al – it kind of irks me when certain people on LFC forums see a difference of footballing opinion as a signal to declare anyone who disagrees with them as “a ****” and other such charming labels.

It only happens on-line – in real life, I disagree with my LFC mates all the time but it never, ever descends into the sort of **** you see on certain forums – and I’m sure it’s not just me & my chums.

[Spionkop69]

Really people cmon...get some perspective here. Its the frigging Carling Cup. Ive seen some knobhead calling for Rafa to be sacked on 6CM We played alot of youngsters, who dont look ready, but this is the perfect opportunity for them to play...a nothing competition. Sure they were shown up by the Arsenal youngsters, but it was bound to happen.

I had a feeling we would get smashed, and it turned out to be that way. Do i care? sort of...its not pretty to look at. But does it matter? no!

Why? because we have bigger things to worry about. namely Barca and catching Chelsea.

so sort your heads out and calm the **** down

I agree with the underlying sentiment post match - don't you just love hindsight!

Yes we have bigger fish to fry.

Yes, most people have been moaning that we're just a cup team and we need to concentrate on the league - we can now

Yes some nobber on 6CM suggested that Rafa be sacked but he is a nobber of the highest order on a consistent basis

But last night was more than a tad humiliating

But, that was hardly our reserves

But, why did Rafa field 3 left sided players and force Guthrie out of position and why didn't he change it when Gonzo went off.

Why didn't someone put a brick ****house tackle in on Fabregas from the off to show them we meant business - take the booking but let him and others know we were there.

The fall out from this will only get higher if we put in another performance like this at Vicarage Road (god forbid).

At the end of the day if anyone had offered us the straight choice of being third in the league and in with a chance of challenging Chelsea OR a chance of a winning the Carling Cup then surely for the sake of progress towards number 19 we'd have taken the former.

Last night hurt, no doubt about it. I was proud to be a Reds fan in terms of the support but not proud of my team in terms of the performance.

But it will be forgotten if we continue to progress in the league and if we progress versus Barca. Either way time heals.

For the older Reds, think back to a League Cup game in the early 90's v Chesterfield and we didn't even lose that one! But we were only going one way then and that was backwards. I'm not sure its quite the same after this result despite the reasonable equality of the humiliation.

[Shaggy]

For the older Reds, think back to a League Cup game in the early 90's v Chesterfield and we didn't even lose that one!

3-0 at home down after 46 minutes!!

[Spionkop69]

3-0 at home down after 46 minutes!!

To Chesterfield of the old 3rd division!! And we think last night was bad!!

[Howard_lfc]

cleverer than you thats for sure! Did you think we would play our full team? i certainly didnt, and i know Arsenals kids are better than ours (i'm man enough to admit that) so putting 2 and 2 together we were in for a tough game.....i didnt expect us to lose 6-3 though.
your just picking out random pieces of text and spinning them into your arguement now. That "it doesnt matter" is that we are out of the CC, im not losing any sleep over it anyway.

LFC isnt my life, like it obviously is to some of you. I love watching us play, and going to Anfield is a major highlight in my life to date......but if we lose it doesnt effect me mentally as it does to some of you.

Why didn't you just say you're a fairweather supporter in the first place? Would have saved me the trouble of picking holes in your arguement.

Dan/Shags - he started it! Honest!

[desertscouser]

To Chesterfield of the old 3rd division!! And we think last night was bad!!

I'll never forget that game....when we went 3-0 down I put my fist through a window at my uncle's house. Still got a couple of small scars to remind me.

[Shaggy]

I'll never forget that game....when we went 3-0 down I put my fist through a window at my uncle's house. Still got a couple of small scars to remind me.

[kurtangle01]

Even the Charidee Shield?

Well as meaningless as it is I did enjoy watching us beat the Chavs down at Anfield south.

[alunevans]

I agree with the underlying sentiment post match - don't you just love hindsight!

Yes we have bigger fish to fry.

Yes, most people have been moaning that we're just a cup team and we need to concentrate on the league - we can now

The thing is mate, when we said we were just a cup side, we meant that we only win cups but not the league. We aren't going to win the league this year so the prospect of us concentrating on that is hardly something that fills me with anticipation.

Its hardly progress to go from a cup team to a cup team who gets dumped out of two cups in three days, in order to concentrate on the league that we won't win.

Also, I fail to understand why we can only finish 3rd or better if we refuse to try to win the Carling Cup. Once we knew that the FA Cup would no longer happen for us I don't see any real reason to justify not playing a properly strong side.

[kurtangle01]

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0...name_page.html

When you read this its very hard to disagre with it. Im one who is not too worried anout going out of the CC, although I am about the manner in which we did.

I remember well after the Birmingham match when Momo got injured, saying WTF was he playing in the CC for.

Some of the comments in there were thinly veild attacks on the current board for not backing him sufficiently in the transfer market. All of those comments were fair IMHO because the board hasn't done enough in certain situations to back Rafa.