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Of course Rafa was brought in to win the league but given that we have no chance this season of doing that, the Carling Cup should have had a higher profile for us this season.
For me Rafa should have played a far stronger 11 than he did on Tuesday. If we had have been challenging for the title, then fine, play a 2nd 11 but we aren't are we.
arsenal played their second string and so did we, and we weren't that bad, lot more attempts, the difference was our defense messed up and our goalie wasn't ready. rafa played a very strong side on saturday and will play a very strong side next week, and since the league is more important than carling cup, yes finishing in the top 4 is more important than winning the cup. we had two players injured after the cup tie, and this is exactly what he was trying to prevent by not playing his top players. and another thing, our young players need to participate in a real match and what better chance than to play them in the carling cup against arsenal who will also field a simular team...
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Of course Rafa was brought in to win the league but given that we have no chance this season of doing that, the Carling Cup should have had a higher profile for us this season.
For me Rafa should have played a far stronger 11 than he did on Tuesday. If we had have been challenging for the title, then fine, play a 2nd 11 but we aren't are we.
He makes mistakes Sir Bob, we all do. He admitted it himself. IMO he doesn't have to list them and prostrate himself for our edification.
You have to look at it in the context of the FA Cup as well. Before Saturday he had to judge which competition was more important and play his stronger line-up in one or the other or spread the weaknesses out between the two matches. He played pretty much our strongest available team on Saturday which indicates to me that he rates the FA Cup as the more important (perhaps because we held the trophy, perhaps because he learned from the defeat to Burnley, perhaps because it historically is the more important, possibly all three). Then he rested players for Tuesday, having judged that the team he put out should still be able to get the right result against a weaker Arsenal team.
If he could have known we were going to lose the FA Cup game then obviously he could have left his stronger players (especially up front and in central defence) for Tuesday.
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Of course Rafa was brought in to win the league but given that we have no chance this season of doing that, the Carling Cup should have had a higher profile for us this season.
For me Rafa should have played a far stronger 11 than he did on Tuesday. If we had have been challenging for the title, then fine, play a 2nd 11 but we aren't are we.
****ing Carling Cup, time it was ****ing scrapped. We could do without losing players like Momo for 4 months, and Garcia for 6 over a stupid, meaningless competition like that. Personally, I'd rather have those players fit for the rest of the season than win the ****ing thing.
A big ****ing fuss over nothing. I mean losing Garcia for 6 months is far more damaging than being eliminated from the ****ing Carling Cup
Um can i just put a fly in the ointment, ( i am a little depressed today) if we lose to Utd, Chelsea and Barce this could really bite Rafa on the arse.
Of course Rafa was brought in to win the league but given that we have no chance this season of doing that, the Carling Cup should have had a higher profile for us this season.
For me Rafa should have played a far stronger 11 than he did on Tuesday. If we had have been challenging for the title, then fine, play a 2nd 11 but we aren't are we.
At the end of the day does it matter?
Realistically it's the Carling Cup, the other season when it was the only trophy the mancs one, what do you imediately think, oh well they did well and won a trophy or do you think,bunch of jokers only winning the Carling Cup.
Rafa said himself player like Stevie and Alonso were allready suffering, and he didn't want to jepordise our chances in the league, which I think you'll agree are far more important.
The only player I think Rafa made a mistake with is playing Jerzy instead of Reina, but even then i'm sure he couldn't have imagined Dudek would let in 9 goals over 2 games, this is a pro keeper we're talking about here, who had played in some of the biggest games around.
We've got more important business with the Champions League to concentrate on, which I think half of our supporters seem to have written off allready. Going out of the CC isn't the end of the world, and make no mistake we'll be gunning for Barca come next month.
Um can i just put a fly in the ointment, ( i am a little depressed today) if we lose to Utd, Chelsea and Barce this could really bite Rafa on the arse.
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