Super Reina

[Armchairkopite]

I am sick of ska, the commentator,i don't know his name(don't want to know either) turns around and says most clean sheets this season full stop, after earlier in the game talking about Liverpools HIDING from Arsenals KIDS the least you would expect him to say would be i wonder would the score have been any differant if Reina was in goal.
Not a f*cking chance if i had an alternative to ska i would pay double the price fdor some honest well balanced puntits. That brain dead f*ckin idiot Merson(who is now on my most hated list alongside that boffon Gray) had me spitting blood on Tuesday and today and i wish Thommo would bring up the key points that ska seem to avoid Such as Baptista cost Arsenal €20 million but i suppose he only scored 4 didn't he Walcott cost €12 million and so on also Jerzy was extremely poor in both games and this seems to have been completely overlooked.

Ok so i'm slightly biased but really i couldn't give 2 f$$ks about the cups yes either of them, the only titles that count for anything are the Champions League and the domestic title, the other cups make a great day out but when the day is gone its gone.

Can you believe the audacity of Charlie Nicholls and Paul the Piss head Merson sitting on there arses critisicing Rafa ..... I'll save that for another day.

C'mon the pool

Yes i will be in the Kop next week for the Chelsea game

[Dhav]

At the risk of incurring the wrath of most on here I agree with you about the Cup competitions. I dont give a **** about either of them. I mean winning the Cup against West Ham was nice, but I hardly even celebrated, certainly not compared to winning it in 2001 against Arsenal. That's because we've outgrown them. We're too big a club to measure our success on winning domestic cup competitions. Ok it's nice playing in a final, day out in Cardiff or Wembley etc, even nicer picking up a trophy, but everyone knows these Cups are small fry. Once you've won the big one, you realise just how second rate they really are. For a club our size, from now on our focus must always be on the big two- league and Champions League. The recent matches have shown we dont have a squad big enough to compete for all 4 trophies and playing first team players in the Carling Cup has cost us Momo and Luis for months, which is too high a price to pay for a competition like that.

As for those morons on Soccer Saturday, this is the reason why I only watch live football on Sky Sports and nothing else.

[lfcruleus]

At the risk of incurring the wrath of most on here I agree with you about the Cup competitions. I dont give a **** about either of them. I mean winning the Cup against West Ham was nice, but I hardly even celebrated, certainly not compared to winning it in 2001 against Arsenal. That's because we've outgrown them. We're too big a club to measure our success on winning domestic cup competitions. Ok it's nice playing in a final, day out in Cardiff or Wembley etc, even nicer picking up a trophy, but everyone knows these Cups are small fry. Once you've won the big one, you realise just how second rate they really are. For a club our size, from now on our focus must always be on the big two- league and Champions League. The recent matches have shown we dont have a squad big enough to compete for all 4 trophies and playing first team players in the Carling Cup has cost us Momo and Luis for months, which is too high a price to pay for a competition like that.

As for those morons on Soccer Saturday, this is the reason why I only watch live football on Sky Sports and nothing else.

Im sorry but i do disagree, It cost me £64 last Sat and Tues to watch understrength teams (particularly tues obviously) get ****ed by Arsenal. I wouldnt have a problem if the club said "dont bother keep your money we are not even bothered about the Carling Cup" but that dont happen. Liverpool have won the League Cup more often than any other because we take all competitions seriously, to do otherwise is disrespectful to the paying fans.

[lfc4ever]

At the risk of incurring the wrath of most on here I agree with you about the Cup competitions. I dont give a **** about either of them. I mean winning the Cup against West Ham was nice, but I hardly even celebrated, certainly not compared to winning it in 2001 against Arsenal. That's because we've outgrown them. We're too big a club to measure our success on winning domestic cup competitions. Ok it's nice playing in a final, day out in Cardiff or Wembley etc, even nicer picking up a trophy, but everyone knows these Cups are small fry. Once you've won the big one, you realise just how second rate they really are. For a club our size, from now on our focus must always be on the big two- league and Champions League. The recent matches have shown we dont have a squad big enough to compete for all 4 trophies and playing first team players in the Carling Cup has cost us Momo and Luis for months, which is too high a price to pay for a competition like that.

As for those morons on Soccer Saturday, this is the reason why I only watch live football on Sky Sports and nothing else.

That is just so wrong on so many levels, least of all is that the Cups do matter to supporters that go week in week out to matches and hand over hard earned cash to watch Liverpool FC 1st eleven try hard to beat whoever is put in front of them.

The FA Cup was very important this year, as we had very little chance of winning the league, and as for the League Cup, we were not far off being the first & last teams to lift cups at Cardiff, it's all history making and all fans love going to cup finals.

I appreciate looking in from afar can give a different perspective, but there is only one FA Cup, all the other cups in the world have to have national symbols placed in front to identify which cup is being discussed, and for the a return to Wembley to boot, well I would have given anything to be there.

[SouthAfricaRed]

Im sorry but i do disagree, It cost me £64 last Sat and Tues to watch understrength teams (particularly tues obviously) get ****ed by Arsenal. I wouldnt have a problem if the club said "dont bother keep your money we are not even bothered about the Carling Cup" but that dont happen. Liverpool have won the League Cup more often than any other because we take all competitions seriously, to do otherwise is disrespectful to the paying fans.

I feel for you and other paying fans

But Unfortunately we dont have the squad to compete in ALL competitions at Present

I would never say that I dont care about any Cup Competition, Liverpool is and will always be about Winning Trophies, but The Carling Cup and even the FA cup are lower on the Priority List than the CL and EPL

[Rocket]

But Unfortunately we dont have the squad to compete in ALL competitions at Present

although i can see where your coming from on this, but after knowing we were knocked out of the FA cup by the league cup game on tuesday, Rafa knew he only had to play against Watford today, and would have a whole free week for players to rest.

he should have played a decent team against them on Tuesday.

[lfc4ever]

I feel for you and other paying fans

But Unfortunately we dont have the squad to compete in ALL competitions at Present

I would never say that I dont care about any Cup Competition, Liverpool is and will always be about Winning Trophies, but The Carling Cup and even the FA cup are lower on the Priority List than the CL and EPL

Another one from afar that sees it differently, sorry, but you are just so wrong, it matters immensely, honestly, and our chances of "winning" the league are remote to say the least, the chances of "winning" a cup trophy this year, and for where they are to be played, made making finals so important.

[lfcruleus]

although i can see where your coming from on this, but after knowing we were knocked out of the FA cup by the league cup game on tuesday, Rafa knew he only had to play against Watford today, and would have a whole free week for players to rest.

he should have played a decent team against them on Tuesday.

[badpiggy]

At the risk of incurring the wrath of most on here I agree with you about the Cup competitions. I dont give a **** about either of them. I mean winning the Cup against West Ham was nice, but I hardly even celebrated, certainly not compared to winning it in 2001 against Arsenal. That's because we've outgrown them. We're too big a club to measure our success on winning domestic cup competitions. Ok it's nice playing in a final, day out in Cardiff or Wembley etc, even nicer picking up a trophy, but everyone knows these Cups are small fry. Once you've won the big one, you realise just how second rate they really are. For a club our size, from now on our focus must always be on the big two- league and Champions League. The recent matches have shown we dont have a squad big enough to compete for all 4 trophies and playing first team players in the Carling Cup has cost us Momo and Luis for months, which is too high a price to pay for a competition like that.

As for those morons on Soccer Saturday, this is the reason why I only watch live football on Sky Sports and nothing else.

couldn't disagree more brother dhavlos - we'll have outgrown domestic cups when we regularly win a still non-existent soulless european superleague.

[desertscouser]

Another one from afar that sees it differently, sorry, but you are just so wrong, it matters immensely, honestly, and our chances of "winning" the league are remote to say the least, the chances of "winning" a cup trophy this year, and for where they are to be played, made making finals so important.

I 100% agree mate

[saj]

Sorry, but those who of you who say they don't care about cup competitions are full of ****. You're only saying that cos we just got knocked out of them both. If we had won both matches, would you be saying "I don't care we've got through" - the answer is NO you woudn't. You'd probably be celebrating or at least have a smile on your face.

Sure, the cups are not high on the priority scale and the league may be more of a priority but it still doesn't mean we dont't want to win them. You should set out to win every game even if its a meaningless friendly or the champions league final. I hate seeing Liverpool lose full stop.

[Dhav]

Fair enough guys, appreciate your views and I fully understand them. I cannot share them however. I think you guys have an idealist view of the Cup competitions and English football in general that is out of keeping with the modern game. Truth is that the League and CL are the be all and end all and nothing else is on the same level.

You guys know how much I hate Arsenal, and I was at Anfield for the Saturday FA Cup game and no one left the stadium more disappointed than me. In a way I thought they taught us a lesson, and this was for me the more disappointing result as it wasn't a reserve match that the Tuesday game was. However, I would have been more disappointed had we lost the league game against them. At least that would have counted for something. If we didn't go on to win the Cup then beating Arsenal would be meaningless. Likewise if Arsenal dont get to the Final or win it, beating us would mean nothing.

Like Shanks said, for all the Cup competitions we've won, the League is our bread and butter. Cup victories are nice, but they are not the barometer for success. That must always be the league and until we win it again, it must always be our number one priority.

Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea all play extremely weakened teams in the Carling Cup. That's because their priorities lie elsewhere. Big clubs go for big trophies. I'm not going to criticise Rafa for prioritising the League and CL above the Carling Cup, like any sensible manager would.

[lfcruleus]

Yes but as the season is now we are not gonna win the league, but should come 3rd or 4th without trying. The champions league whilst we are not out will be bloody tough too. The cups were our realistic chances of a good day out as paying fans, and i would have ****in loved to be in the first wembley Fa cup final or the last Cardiff CC final

[Red_Al_77]

Liverpool is about winning trophies, whatever the competition. We should have played our strongest side, for the fans, for the club, and because we are Liverpool.

[AFII]

I don't agree with you Al. Rafa should have played a stronger team but not the strongest. We don't have a good enough squad to do that.