Do you reckon . . .

[brendan]

What is wrong with a bit of optimism? We haven't started the season yet, so it is the time for optimism!!!

I think Bellamy will provide much more to the team than Cisse did, but I don't think he'll get 19 goals. Anything over 15 will do for me.

Piss-taking to one side, I do think he'll be brilliant and score lots.
I just have this feeling.

I really, really hope so anyway.

[paulcooper4]

I would be pleased if he got more than cisse but im not sure he will. his goals record has never really impressed me. BUT I think (hope) he will be a far better contributor to the team than cisse was

[singlerider]

Okay - to all those in the NO camp, what does Djibs have over Bellamy, and why do you reckon he won't exceed 19?

Lack of games against 'pub' teams?

Not as good a player?

Suspensions?

Why?

[dww]

Djibs had a very lucky season and games against as you point out some pretty weak opposition. I also can't see Bellamy lasting all season without injury or suspension.

[Nic83]

Yeah but he has never played for a team as good as us.

He will get a mountain of oppertunities to score.

[Nic83]

Djibs had a very lucky season and games against as you point out some pretty weak opposition. I also can't see Bellamy lasting all season without injury or suspension.

Remember Djibs clocked up most of his tally in the first half of the season.

If he can do that, then surely Craig canin a WHOLE season.

[Rosco]

Why's that?

He's almost as quick (quicker with the ball), he has better control, he'll chase down the lost causes, he can dribble past his man as opposed to relying on knocking it past him and chasing - which leads into my next point - Cisse needed the killer ball to set him away otherwise he frequently would either not get past his man or be sheparded towards the corner flag.

IMO Bellamy is more of a creator - in that he can 'make' a goal by himself. Can't remember seeing Djibs do that too often.

I don't have any problems with what you're saying about Bellamy, he's a better all round player than Djibs from what I've seen of him.

But realistically unless we play a lot of really poor teams in the League Cup and Bellamy plays in those games I can't see him hitting 20.

Here's his stats for seasons where he's played in the Premiership :

00/01 - 8 Goals in all competitions

01/02 - 15 Goals in all competitions (three against Brentford in the League Cup)

02/03 - 10 Goals in all competitions

03/04 - 9 Goals in all competitions

05/06 - 17 Goals in all competitions ( 2 against Huddersfield, 2 against QPR)


It's always a worthwhile exercise to look at a players goalscoring history when attempting to make a judgement on how his goalscoring is likely to be in the future. Based on these it looks like 20 goals is out of Bellamy's reach unless he plays games in the cups against weak opposition.

In his best year he scored 17 goals, was that his "career year" that he won't reach the heights of again ? Was it a sign of things to come ? He is after all at an age now where players are said to come into their prime, although that is a horrible generalisation. He's also at better club than previously which in theory should mean that he'll get more chances to score. He'll also face more competition to get into the team too, and he can be a quite injury prone.

I think that's covered everything now....

Weighing up all the things for and against , along with his Premiership history if I had to put money on Bellamy to score 20 or not to score 20, I'd back him not to score 20.

For the record I don't think he'll be far off 20.

[Infadel]

Okay - to all those in the NO camp, what does Djibs have over Bellamy,

He was better at getting offside!!!

[Ryan]

I don't have any problems with what you're saying about Bellamy, he's a better all round player than Djibs from what I've seen of him.

But realistically unless we play a lot of really poor teams in the League Cup and Bellamy plays in those games I can't see him hitting 20.

Here's his stats for seasons where he's played in the Premiership :

00/01 - 8 Goals in all competitions

01/02 - 15 Goals in all competitions (three against Brentford in the League Cup)

02/03 - 10 Goals in all competitions

03/04 - 9 Goals in all competitions

05/06 - 17 Goals in all competitions ( 2 against Huddersfield, 2 against QPR)


It's always a worthwhile exercise to look at a players goalscoring history when attempting to make a judgement on how his goalscoring is likely to be in the future. Based on these it looks like 20 goals is out of Bellamy's reach unless he plays games in the cups against weak opposition.

In his best year he scored 17 goals, was that his "career year" that he won't reach the heights of again ? Was it a sign of things to come ? He is after all at an age now where players are said to come into their prime, although that is a horrible generalisation. He's also at better club than previously which in theory should mean that he'll get more chances to score. He'll also face more competition to get into the team too, and he can be a quite injury prone.

I think that's covered everything now....

Weighing up all the things for and against , along with his Premiership history if I had to put money on Bellamy to score 20 or not to score 20, I'd back him not to score 20.

For the record I don't think he'll be far off 20.

For someone so desperate to avoid the stigma, you're doing a very good impression of someone aspiring to be Ritchi3.

[Peter Delvechio]

The words out of my mouth.

[Laz]

Just to play Devil's Advocate, Bellamy was actually caught offside more times than Cisse in the Premiership last season.

I really hope he does well this season, especially as I have a little bet on him. (I was drunk).

[singlerider]

Fair doos



I just reckon with providers as good as Stevie & Xabi, he'll be smashing them in - again it comes down to the fact that I think he's a better all-round goal scorer than Djibs. If and when he gets an understanding with those two, and Robbie/Crouch/Kuyt/Whoever I think he has a better awareness of other players and makes more intelligent runs.

I'm hoping for/expecting 15 in the league plus whatever in cups etc.

[Rosco]

For someone so desperate to avoid the stigma, you're doing a very good impression of someone aspiring to be Ritchi3.

Very funny ......

[brendan]

For someone so desperate to avoid the stigma, you're doing a very good impression of someone aspiring to be Ritchi3.

I pointed this out recently.

He did NOT take it very well.

Which make it all the more amusing, natch.

[Ryan]

I pointed this out recently.

He did NOT take it very well.

Which make it all the more amusing, natch.

Yeah, he should change his name to 'Gimpi3'.