Trust Us - Parry/Bascombe - Echo

[redlancer]

The problem with this line from Parry & Moores is that until yesterday they had been banging on about how great DIC were. We had loads of pro DIC propaganda from the board that had convinced fans that DIC was the ideal investor. Now all of a sudden we are to believe thats not the case & the poor mans Glazer is the chosen one after all.

Now we all know things can change quickly in business but 1 of 2 things happened.
1. We ballsed up by trying to play Gillet & DIC off against each other to the point where DIC took their ball home.
2. Something was unearthed about DIC that LFC didn't like, something that suddenly made their bid unattractive.

Now whilst it may have been option 2 (for instance the leaked memo about DIC selling up in 7 or 8 years time) its hard for many fans to rule out option 1. Until we know what really happened, which will probably be never, that thought will always be in the back of our minds.

Say Gillet does take over & things don't work out well, you can bet we will refer back to yesterdays events with Moores & Parry getting both barrels.

Its for that reason and the length of time that I think Moores would never knowingly sell us out.

If DIC was the best deal then why arn't they the new owners.

I never will believe that Moores would even consider money in a deal unless it was to price someone out.

The comment they knew DIC could walk implies not all was 100% there, so what if they PR'd them up, what esle would we expect.
Its like a manager publically supporting the players only to bollock them afterwards

[Dhav]

I've still heard nothing to allay my concerns about losing a financially self-sufficient investor and replacing them with investors who can only fund their investment by plunging the club further into debt.

[lfc4ever]

http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=49989

Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez was surprised by the collapse of the Dubai International Capital takeover bid, but says he trusts the board to make the right decision over the club's future.

'I have spoken to [chief executive] Rick Parry and he says he feels this could be better, really good for the club. But I prefer to leave them to decide while I concentrate on the derby against Everton on Saturday.

'Whether there would have been more money in the transfer window if the DIC bid had moved quicker, I don't know, I cannot talk of speculation.

'I can only say I am happy with the players we have signed, and I hope I will be just as happy as now in the summer. There could be more money, but the thing is to do the right thing at the right time.'

[Sir Bob]

Its for that reason and the length of time that I think Moores would never knowingly sell us out.

If DIC was the best deal then why arn't they the new owners.

I never will believe that Moores would even consider money in a deal unless it was to price someone out.

The comment they knew DIC could walk implies not all was 100% there, so what if they PR'd them up, what esle would we expect.
Its like a manager publically supporting the players only to bollock them afterwards

I don't doubt that both Moores & Parry have LFC's best interests at heart. but lets face facts here. We have been told for some time now that the sun shone out of the backside of the DIC bid. Now all of a sudden DIC have pulled the plug & we don't know why. Was something discovered about DIC & their bid that LFC didn't like or were the LFC board messing DIC around to such an extent that they got brassed of with it all.

I know moores loves LFC but how do we know he didn't fancy the Gillet bid more because he would have pocketed £8m more. I know he's minted anyway and stood to earn £80m from DIC's bid but £8m is £8m.

Nobody on here knows the answer to this. I'm not saying DIC pulled out because we were trying to squeeze more cash out of them but we don't know they didn't. Something happened & in business that something is nearly always about money.

[redlancer]

I've still heard nothing to allay my concerns about losing a financially self-sufficient investor and replacing them with investors who can only fund their investment by plunging the club further into debt.

weren't DIC going to raise the money from other investors?

[Eth]

Apparently 5 live have a special on at 2100 on all this DIC ****

[redlancer]

I don't doubt that both Moores & Parry have LFC's best interests at heart. but lets face facts here. We have been told for some time now that the sun shone out of the backside of the DIC bid. Now all of a sudden DIC have pulled the plug & we don't know why. Was something discovered about DIC & their bid that LFC didn't like or were the LFC board messing DIC around to such an extent that they got brassed of with it all.

I know moores loves LFC but how do we know he didn't fancy the Gillet bid more because he would have pocketed £8m more. I know he's minted anyway and stood to earn £80m from DIC's bid but £8m is £8m.

Nobody on here knows the answer to this. I'm not saying DIC pulled out because we were trying to squeeze more cash out of them but we don't know they didn't. Something happened & in business that something is nearly always about money.

or power?

I know 8M is 8M, but to choose the wrong deal over 10% doesn't sound like Moores. Can't see him wanting to be the person who sold us out.

Maybe Gilletts offering Moores a role

Said it earlier on a thread AK said he'd heard last week this deal was off due to contents of the leaked doc.

As for sun shining out of thier are, makes sence even if there are doubts.

my gut feeling is somethings been spotted and th Dubai's have tried to save face

[Le Chef]

I've still heard nothing to allay my concerns about losing a financially self-sufficient investor and replacing them with investors who can only fund their investment by plunging the club further into debt.

Whoever takes over including a rich benefactor will plunge us in to debt anyway. No-one is going to invest a bean unless a) the get a return on the investment and b) the loan willl be rescheduled to be paid off over a number of years.

To be honest with the Sky deal around the corner, I do not beleive the nessacity to be "taken over" is quite the same as it was when this firrst started a few years ago. My only wish is that Moores had deeper pockets to fund the stadium himself so we would not be in this position now and looking at new owners that we don't know feck all about. With the new SKy deal we will be able to compete on the signings front just not on the revenue front. Also please plase ask yourselves why would anyon e part with £400m+ without seeing any kind return.

For me - I trust Parry and Moores to meake the right decision for the fans and no-one else.

[redlancer]

Whoever takes over including a rich benefactor will plunge us in to debt anyway. No-one is going to invest a bean unless a) the get a return on the investment and b) the loan willl be rescheduled to be paid off over a number of years.

To be honest with the Sky deal around the corner, I do not beleive the nessacity to be "taken over" is quite the same as it was when this firrst started a few years ago. My only wish is that Moores had deeper pockets to fund the stadium himself so we would not be in this position now and looking at new owners that we don't know feck all about. With the new SKy deal we will be able to compete on the signings front just not on the revenue front. Also please plase ask yourselves why would anyon e part with £400m+ without seeing any kind return.

For me - I trust Parry and Moores to meake the right decision for the fans and no-one else.

apart from funding the new stadium i'm with you, do we need ta takeover.

after all all takeovers are on the sole purpose of making money, so why can't we employ people to do it for us?

[alunevans]

I don't doubt that both Moores & Parry have LFC's best interests at heart. but lets face facts here. We have been told for some time now that the sun shone out of the backside of the DIC bid. Now all of a sudden DIC have pulled the plug & we don't know why. Was something discovered about DIC & their bid that LFC didn't like or were the LFC board messing DIC around to such an extent that they got brassed of with it all.

I know moores loves LFC but how do we know he didn't fancy the Gillet bid more because he would have pocketed £8m more. I know he's minted anyway and stood to earn £80m from DIC's bid but £8m is £8m.

Nobody on here knows the answer to this. I'm not saying DIC pulled out because we were trying to squeeze more cash out of them but we don't know they didn't. Something happened & in business that something is nearly always about money.

For all my criticisms of Mr Moores in the past, I don't seriously think he'd sell us out for extra cash for himself.

I do however share your concerns. It just doesn't add up that one minute the club is presenting DIC in a great light, granting them exclusivity ahead of Gillett, and the next minute they're saying Gillett was the best offer all along.

Its a big one to swallow.

I don't know whats happened but thats because we're not being told the truth in my view.

I'd love straightforward answers to these questions but expect never to get them.

[Sir Bob]

or power?

I know 8M is 8M, but to choose the wrong deal over 10% doesn't sound like Moores. Can't see him wanting to be the person who sold us out.

Maybe Gilletts offering Moores a role

Said it earlier on a thread AK said he'd heard last week this deal was off due to contents of the leaked doc.

As for sun shining out of thier are, makes sence even if there are doubts.

my gut feeling is somethings been spotted and th Dubai's have tried to save face

You may well be 100% correct but the problem is we don't know.
I guess my point is that just because Parry says trust us, doesn't mean I do trust them. Equally, I'm not saying I don't trust them either. Its just that I'm a sceptical bugger when it comes to money & I have to say my trust in Moores & parry has lessened in the wake of the DIC withdrawal. i may be being unfair on them but until we know 100% what happened (which won't happen) that doubt will remain.

[alunevans]

or power?

I know 8M is 8M, but to choose the wrong deal over 10% doesn't sound like Moores. Can't see him wanting to be the person who sold us out.

Maybe Gilletts offering Moores a role

Said it earlier on a thread AK said he'd heard last week this deal was off due to contents of the leaked doc.

As for sun shining out of thier are, makes sence even if there are doubts.

my gut feeling is somethings been spotted and th Dubai's have tried to save face

thing is though, the leaked doc was ages ago. would it have taken them this long to jib Dubai if it was over the seven year plan. i'm pretty certain they've continued to present Dubai as the answer even after that document leaked.

[Sir Bob]

For all my criticisms of Mr Moores in the past, I don't seriously think he'd sell us out for extra cash for himself.

I do however share your concerns. It just doesn't add up that one minute the club is presenting DIC in a great light, granting them exclusivity ahead of Gillett, and the next minute they're saying Gillett was the best offer all along.

Its a big one to swallow.

I don't know whats happened but thats because we're not being told the truth in my view.

I'd love straightforward answers to these questions but expect never to get them.

Great post mate. My feelings exactly.

[imlivid]

Mary loves DIC

[Le Chef]

For all my criticisms of Mr Moores in the past, I don't seriously think he'd sell us out for extra cash for himself.

I do however share your concerns. It just doesn't add up that one minute the club is presenting DIC in a great light, granting them exclusivity ahead of Gillett, and the next minute they're saying Gillett was the best offer all along.

Its a big one to swallow.

I don't know whats happened but thats because we're not being told the truth in my view.

I'd love straightforward answers to these questions but expect never to get them.

Great post mate. My feelings exactly.

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