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    #16
    I didnt think Xabi was that poor, no poorer than Gerrard IMO. Gerrard has to try stop hitting "glory" goals, they rarely come off, and in a game like that when Everton had 8 men in defence, its always going to hit one of their players.

    I thought he was **** today! Yelling at other players, when he himself is playing terribly....poor form in my book.

    We really couldnt do much more today...they defended like dogs and managed to drag us down to their level.
    "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

    "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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      #17
      Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
      I didnt think Xabi was that poor, no poorer than Gerrard IMO. Gerrard has to try stop hitting "glory" goals, they rarely come off, and in a game like that when Everton had 8 men in defence, its always going to hit one of their players.

      I thought he was **** today! Yelling at other players, when he himself is playing terribly....poor form in my book.
      I hate 'hollywood balls' as well, hate them with a passion... when they are not coming off; used with regularity. Fact is, i could guarantee Gerrard's pass rate was significantly better than Alonso's'. However this is not a comparison as to who played/is better...

      That was the single worst performance from Alonso i've ever seen. That's not me making him a scapegoat... he wasn't singularly responsible for the draw (far from it in fact), it's merely an observation. Such was his first-half performance i suspected he'd have been subbed at half-time if 1) Rafa was the type of manager to do so (which he ain't) 2) we had any obvious options on the bench (which we certainly did not).

      I wouldn't be surprised if we see some Monday quotes confirming the above, the frustration in his body language was evident... typified by him belting the ball on the stroke of half-time.

      That said, Alonso is class and this was far from a typical performance. It is worrying though that Alonso can have truly stinking games... the Spain v N. Ireland was another typical example of this.

      Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
      I thought he was **** today! Yelling at other players, when he himself is playing terribly....poor form in my book.
      As as for that, that is utter rubbish. Some people don't like players/people being vocal during a match, but as captain that is exactly their job. Par example: on Friday's friendly fives i was tearing strips off my teammates, absolutely yelling at them: they ****ing needed it as well, and so did some players today. Mate, its the way some players play, and it's regardless of their own form. The only counter-argument is if they're shouting for the sake of it, but it will have been constructive advice/instruction/encouragement. You need vociferous players, you're lost without them.
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      Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Bob View Post


        As as for that, that is utter rubbish. Some people don't like players/people being vocal during a match, but as captain that is exactly their job. Par example: on Friday's friendly fives i was tearing strips off my teammates, absolutely yelling at them: they ****ing needed it as well, and so did some players today. Mate, its the way some players play, and it's regardless of their own form. The only counter-argument is if they're shouting for the sake of it, but it will have been constructive advice/instruction/encouragement. You need vociferous players, you're lost without them.
        i have no problem with him yelling at players getting into position...Carra does it all the time. It just seemed to me that he was angry at himself, and was taking it out on others. There was one moment when he played it to Pennant, looking for a 1-2, then ran striaght at Penant in the end the got into a bit of a muddle, and Gerrard ended up losing the ball......he gave a glaring look and barked at Pennant.....when he was the one who buggered up the move.

        Anyway, that was a once off, frustrating as **** game. Im glad its over I almost threw the remote at the telly


        Speaking of five a side, i scored an absolute peach on thursday night. I play defence, and took the ball of their strikers toes, then embarked on a mazy run through four of their players before nutmegging the last man. The ball bobbled a bit, and i ended up facing away from goals......but backheeled it through the keepers legs
        "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

        "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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          #19
          Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
          Speaking of five a side, i scored an absolute peach on thursday night. I play defence, and took the ball of their strikers toes, then embarked on a mazy run through four of their players before nutmegging the last man. The ball bobbled a bit, and i ended up facing away from goals......but backheeled it through the keepers legs
          In my minds eye reading that, it sounds gracefully Pele like.

          But i bet in truth you looked more like a novice on a unicycle

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            #20
            Originally posted by alunevans View Post
            In my minds eye reading that, it sounds gracefully Pele like.

            But i bet in truth you looked more like a novice on a unicycle
            i was in total control the whole way..until it took the slight touch of his ankle.

            best goal ive ever scored.
            "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

            "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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              #21
              Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
              i have no problem with him yelling at players getting into position...Carra does it all the time. It just seemed to me that he was angry at himself, and was taking it out on others. There was one moment when he played it to Pennant, looking for a 1-2, then ran striaght at Penant in the end the got into a bit of a muddle, and Gerrard ended up losing the ball......he gave a glaring look and barked at Pennant.....when he was the one who buggered up the move.

              Anyway, that was a once off, frustrating as **** game. Im glad its over I almost threw the remote at the telly


              Speaking of five a side, i scored an absolute peach on thursday night. I play defence, and took the ball of their strikers toes, then embarked on a mazy run through four of their players before nutmegging the last man. The ball bobbled a bit, and i ended up facing away from goals......but backheeled it through the keepers legs
              How many people play fives down under?

              I also scored one of the best goasl i've ever scored last Friday... but i can't be arsed typying it up... needless to say the move finished by me belting the ball into the top corner unsighted R.Carlos-esque

              I also twisted some guys ankle who tried to block one of my shots, before going onto take the ball round tired legs to score the winning goal...

              i'm in the form of my life at the moment. Hail me!

              ...
              Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Bob View Post
                How many people play fives down under?

                I also scored one of the best goasl i've ever scored last Friday... but i can't be arsed typying it up... needless to say the move finished by me belting the ball into the top corner unsighted R.Carlos-esque

                I also twisted some guys ankle who tried to block one of my shots, before going onto take the ball round tired legs to score the winning goal...

                i'm in the form of my life at the moment. Hail me!

                Are you a Neil Ruddock type of player ?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by fredo View Post
                  Are you a Neil Ruddock type of player ?
                  I'd like to think i'm a bit leaner and faster thank you.

                  I play out of defense though, mainly cause i don't trust anyone else, and i can see the play from there.

                  I'm far from huge, but i do put myself about, and intimidate players... if someone is goal-side of me and i'm chasing them, they know they need to make a play pretty damn quickly or their gonna feel some hurt real soon. Fairly of course
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                  Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bob View Post
                    I'd like to think i'm a bit leaner and faster thank you.

                    I play out of defense though, mainly cause i don't trust anyone else, and i can see the play from there.

                    I'm far from huge, but i do put myself about, and intimidate players... if someone is goal-side of me and i'm chasing them, they know they need to make a play pretty damn quickly or their gonna feel some hurt real soon. Fairly of course
                    I see. We should arrange a kick about someday.

                    I play centre midfield, box to box type of player, with an eye for a goal and good passing range. I don't like tackles though, I just tend to rely on my awareness and reading of the game.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bob View Post
                      How many people play fives down under?

                      I also scored one of the best goasl i've ever scored last Friday... but i can't be arsed typying it up... needless to say the move finished by me belting the ball into the top corner unsighted R.Carlos-esque

                      I also twisted some guys ankle who tried to block one of my shots, before going onto take the ball round tired legs to score the winning goal...

                      i'm in the form of my life at the moment. Hail me!

                      4, plus a keeper.......= 5. I got past the striker, the midfielder and defender in one move, and then nutmegged the last man. It was pure

                      i also play defence Bob, for very similar reason to you...i dont trust the others in our team, because none of them can tackle for ****. I bloody love a good shoulder barge and you can read the game alot better from the back
                      "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                      "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by fredo View Post
                        I see. We should arrange a kick about someday.

                        I play centre midfield, box to box type of player, with an eye for a goal and good passing range. I don't like tackles though, I just tend to rely on my awareness and reading of the game.
                        In elevens i'm a right back, but i'm always played in CM (defensive), which is fookin' knackering and not my best position.

                        If we did come up against each other i'd predict like Robben/Ballack etc. you'd be begging to come off at half time, following several 'reducers'.
                        ...
                        Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
                          4, plus a keeper.......= 5. I got past the striker, the midfielder and defender in one move, and then nutmegged the last man. It was pure

                          i also play defence Bob, for very similar reason to you...i dont trust the others in our team, because none of them can tackle for ****. I bloody love a good shoulder barge and you can read the game alot better from the back


                          That's why I love to play centre midfield myself. You're at the hub of everything and can help out in defence (even if I don't tackle ) when need be.

                          Haven't played football for ages though.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
                            i also play defence Bob, for very similar reason to you...i dont trust the others in our team, because none of them can tackle for ****. I bloody love a good shoulder barge and you can read the game alot better from the back
                            Because going to ground in fives is quite frankly frowned upon and dangerous... a well-timed shoulder challenge is the key tackle in fives.
                            ...
                            Don't take life too seriously or you'll never get out alive.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bob View Post
                              In elevens i'm a right back, but i'm always played in CM (defensive), which is fookin' knackering and not my best position.

                              If we did come up against each other i'd predict like Robben/Ballack etc. you'd be begging to come off at half time, following several 'reducers'.


                              No mate, I would have retaliated and been off surely though but you would have finished with a bloodied nose.

                              I love to play 5 a sides though. Short passing and lots of movement ! Pure Bliss.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bob View Post
                                In elevens i'm a right back, but i'm always played in CM (defensive), which is fookin' knackering and not my best position.

                                If we did come up against each other i'd predict like Robben/Ballack etc. you'd be begging to come off at half time, following several 'reducers'.
                                hahahaha.

                                I remember my first game for the Old Collegians here in Adelaide, the gaffer asked me where i prefered to play.....i said "well i played either LW or as a Defensive Mid all through school".

                                So what does the **** do? Chuck me in at RB.....i was livid. Ive never played there before in my life. I actaully played quite well, but he grilled me for not looking after my defensive duties. I found it very hard not being able to play in the middle and stay out wide....it was very frustrating. A RB i will never be.
                                "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                                "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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