Post match wash-up/reaction/moan thread

[anfieldanfield]

I think he is. He's quicker, has better movement and is stronger. They're probably both on equal terms where finishing is concerned but Kuyt is the better player in my opinion.

In terms of goals and assists, there isn't much difference, in my opinion.

[Shaggy]

I think he is. He's quicker, has better movement and is stronger. They're probably both on equal terms where finishing is concerned but Kuyt is the better player in my opinion.

Well there'll always be people who think Kuyt is better, but there are also plenty who think otherwise - which shows there's not much in it. We're splitting hairs really.

I think we're still searching for that striker.

[tomasjj]

I suppose the point I'm making is he's at the same level as Crouch, whereas many Reds make out he's a step up from him. He's not.

Well, I disagree with you on that.
Kuyt is better.
FACT!

[Shaggy]

Well, I disagree with you on that.
Kuyt is better.
FACT!

Crouch has more goals and more assists in fewer games. FACT!

[REDSCOUSER]

If some people think that Kuyt is not up to scratch or he is not good enough then they REALLY REALLY should get their head examined.

ps: Shags that was not targeted at only you.

[kurtangle01]

Well there'll always be people who think Kuyt is better, but there are also plenty who think otherwise - which shows there's not much in it. We're splitting hairs really.

I think we're still searching for that striker.

Kuyt and Crouch will still have a big part to play even when we find "that striker". Both offer lots to the team and will be an ideal partner for said striker.

Both have futures at the club and both will play games when the new striker comes in.

It's the wings that need strengthening more IMHO.

[Shaggy]

Kuyt and Crouch will still have a big part to play even when we find "that striker". Both offer lots to the team and will be an ideal partner for said striker.

Both have futures at the club and both will play games when the new striker comes in.

I agree with that.

[tomasjj]

Crouch has more goals and more assists in fewer games. FACT!

I don't care.
He is still worse.

[Shaggy]

It's the wings that need strengthening more IMHO.

And I probably agree with that. Two quality wingers AND a prolific goalscorer are of equal priority for me.

[tomasjj]

If some people think that Kuyt is not up to scratch or he is not good enough then they REALLY REALLY should get their head examined.

ps: Shags that was not targeted at only you.

[nbryan1764]

16 points behind the mancs.

Disgraceful.

Cup competitions aside, how far have we *really* progressed in the League under Rafa ?

far enough for some to think that fter we beat chelsea we still had a chance of winning the league. Obviously it was wrong but before he came when was the last time that the majority of people were optimistic? He has risen expectations so he must have done something right.

We progressed far enough to have our highest points tally in premiership times last season. Granted we did not win it but you asked how far had we progressed and our points tally suggest that the answer would be "quite a bit".

The last season before Rafa we finished in 4th with 60 points. This "poor" season, if we carry on the average points per game that we have to date (1.85) we will end with 70 points, 10 points higher. Again the answer must be "quite a bit"


The fact of the matter is that the bar has been raised. Yes we are 16 points behind but if I use the average again then the Mancs will end up with 92 points. As mush as I had to say it that is an incredible tally. That follows up Chelsea's 91 points last season. This is getting harder and harder.

In my opinion our best two sides were the 78/79 tea and the 87/88 team. Using 3 points for a win and averaging points over 38 games then those teams would have amassed:

78/79 89 points
87/88 86 points

So, even those great teams in points terms would have had a fight.

[Shaggy]

I don't care.
He is still worse.

[tomasjj]

Ha...Ditto!

[tomasjj]

But, on a more serious note...

How much have we improved compared to last season?

[anfieldanfield]

But, on a more serious note...

How much have we improved compared to last season?

We haven't.