Training camp bust up/newspaper rumours

[thesilverfoxlfc]

This will all be blown over by the end of the week

[tomasjj]

I haven't had one opinion on this whole episode in this thread, I've only posted the news. As I have said in my previous post, I leave it up to others to decide on what they believe to be correct and what is bull****.

I think that is fair.
When I said i found all the speculation pathetic it had nothing to do with you posting it at all.

[bazza76]

So where are we on this?

Did it happen or did they wake up in the shower and it was all a dream?

Unfortunately it happened Jay.
You up for a game in a while? Just watching Saw3 after coming 3rd for the second time in a feeder to play the liverpool legends off the official

[Kaip]

So where are we on this?

Did it happen or did they wake up in the shower and it was all a dream?

It`s all bellamys fault

[Johnny]

Oh dear, you're not really getting this are you.

"Oh dear",where have i heard that from befrore?

Explain.

[Johnny]

Leave him be, mate.
You are just winding him up even more.

Both have a point I think.
Posting info is what this is about, and we should judge for ourselves, but it is a bit sad that many are quick to jump to conclusions.

which i`ve said 10 times today,some people want to believe this even though there is no DEFINATE proof so they can say "I told you that Bellamy was a troublemaker and was never good enough for our club.
The word Vendetta springs to mind and it gets my goat.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

"Oh dear",where have i heard that from befrore?

Explain.

Right......this will be like pulling teeth but here goes.

You are a member of a football Forum where like every other football forum the vast majority of debate and discussion starts from rumours and press reports. Livvy has merely added a new report which, has supposed eye witnesses to some of the events. He was merely adding more information to the story. He has never said he believes the reports, nor AT ANY POINT has he slated any of the players.

Yet, you see fit to have a pop at him for merely adding more information.
I agree with you, players shouldn't be castigated until we know the full facts but people have been posting snippets on here for individuals to make their own mind up, to discuss and debate.

As someone else said, football forums are not for you if that's the attitude you take.

[Sir Bob]

The attitude of some posters on here is beyond belief. To say this whole sorry episode is the ante LFc London press stirring trouble before a big game is laughable. LFC get the same treatment nationally as any other big team. If this incident had involved Man U, Chelsea or the arse then the coverage would in my view have been even larger.

the players involved in this should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves & Bellamy, if the golf club incident is even partially true, should never play for LFC again.

[Johnny]

Right......this will be like pulling teeth but here goes.

You are a member of a football Forum where like every other football forum the vast majority of debate and discussion starts from rumours and press reports. Livvy has merely added a new report which, has supposed eye witnesses to some of the events. He was merely adding more information to the story. He has never said he believes the reports, nor AT ANY POINT has he slated any of the players.

Yet, you see fit to have a pop at him for merely adding more information.
I agree with you, players shouldn't be castigated until we know the full facts but people have been posting snippets on here for individuals to make their own mind up, to discuss and debate.

As someone else said, football forums are not for you if that's the attitude you take.

Thanks for that Shiek.
Deja-vu!!!!Ive just PMed you.

[Johnny]

The attitude of some posters on here is beyond belief. To say this whole sorry episode is the ante LFc London press stirring trouble before a big game is laughable. LFC get the same treatment nationally as any other big team. If this incident had involved Man U, Chelsea or the arse then the coverage would in my view have been even larger.

the players involved in this should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves & Bellamy, if the golf club incident is even partially true, should never play for LFC again.

And therein lies the crux of todays posting.If he`s guilty hang him.

[AFII]

The attitude of some posters on here is beyond belief. To say this whole sorry episode is the ante LFc London press stirring trouble before a big game is laughable. LFC get the same treatment nationally as any other big team. If this incident had involved Man U, Chelsea or the arse then the coverage would in my view have been even larger.

the players involved in this should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves & Bellamy, if the golf club incident is even partially true, should never play for LFC again.

I agree with you.

[AFII]

Craig Bellamy will be the first casualty of a summer clear-out at Liverpool after the striker’s controversial career took another turn for the worse during a drunken night at the club’s training camp in Portugal.

Rafael BenÍtez was forced to issue a statement condemning the behaviour of his players when word reached an incandescent George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks, the American sports tycoons who bought Liverpool in a £470 million takeover earlier this month.

Although the manager was already giving consideration to offloading Bellamy and a number of other players, the Wales forward’s latest brush with authority has effectively sealed his fate.

The trouble is alleged to have begun in the early hours of Friday in a bar close to the team’s hotel in the plush Algarve resort of Vale Do Lobo, where Liverpool had spent the week training in preparation for the first leg of their Champions League first knockout round tie away to Barcelona on Wednesday.

Bellamy is said to have got involved in a drunken exchange with John Arne Riise, his teammate, over karaoke that resulted in him hitting the defender around the legs with a golf club. Riise, who apparently was not drinking, was said to be unhurt. Other players, including Jerzy Dudek, Jermaine Pennant and Robbie Fowler, were also accused of being drunk and rowdy.

Steven Gerrard, the captain, and Peter Crouch are believed to have attempted to defuse the situation, but police were called and while no one was arrested or charged, one player – understood to be Dudek, the goalkeeper – is reported to have been momentarily placed in handcuffs before being released.

Although everyone trained the next morning and again yesterday, with the club putting on a united front and insisting that there were no divisions in the camp, BenÍtez – who was woken from his hotel room to deal with the matter – is understood to be furious that the players could behave in such a manner on the eve of arguably their biggest game of the season.

Having listened all week to talk of dissent in the Barcelona camp, the Liverpool manager is concerned that news of the rumpus could play into the Spanish team’s hands. Neither has word of the fracas been well received in the United States, with Gillett and Hicks thought to be dismayed about the adverse publicity and keen for action to be taken.

In a strongly worded statement issued yesterday, BenÍtez said that all those players deemed to have been involved will be fined, although a financial penalty is probably the least of Bellamy’s concerns.

While Dudek and Fowler were always going to be leaving the club at the end of the season – BenÍtez has already found a replacement for Fowler in Andriy Voronin, the Bayer Leverkusen and Ukraine striker, who has agreed in principle to a four-year deal that will commence in July – Bellamy’s future did at least appear his to decide.

Having warned the Wales striker about his behaviour when he signed for the club last June, the manager is said to feel “let down” by his actions. In December, the striker, who had a very public falling-out with Graeme Souness, the manager, when he was at Newcastle United, was acquitted of assaulting a woman in a Cardiff bar in December.

BenÍtez said: “I met this morning with the entire first-team squad and made it absolutely clear to all of them the responsibilities that come with playing for this club and the way they are expected to conduct themselves both on and off the pitch.

“The players worked extremely hard at last week’s training camp, but we will take disciplinary action and fine any of them who are found to have breached club rules during our stay in Portugal.

“Despite reports to the contrary, the spirit among the lads is very good with everyone looking forward to the game against Barcelona on Wednesday. We remain totally focused on what will be a tough game against the defending European champions.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle1403805.ece

[kurtangle01]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/liverpool/article1403805.ece

Here's another article from the times
Angry Benitez ushers Bellamy nearer Anfield exit after fracas
Wales striker to be sold in summer Manager hits out at unruly playersJames Ducker
Craig Bellamy will be the first casualty of a summer clear-out at Liverpool after the striker’s controversial career took another turn for the worse during a drunken night at the club’s training camp in Portugal.

Rafael BenÍtez was forced to issue a statement condemning the behaviour of his players when word reached an incandescent George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks, the American sports tycoons who bought Liverpool in a £470 million takeover earlier this month.

Although the manager was already giving consideration to offloading Bellamy and a number of other players, the Wales forward’s latest brush with authority has effectively sealed his fate.

The trouble is alleged to have begun in the early hours of Friday in a bar close to the team’s hotel in the plush Algarve resort of Vale Do Lobo, where Liverpool had spent the week training in preparation for the first leg of their Champions League first knockout round tie away to Barcelona on Wednesday.

Bellamy is said to have got involved in a drunken exchange with John Arne Riise, his teammate, over karaoke that resulted in him hitting the defender around the legs with a golf club. Riise, who apparently was not drinking, was said to be unhurt. Other players, including Jerzy Dudek, Jermaine Pennant and Robbie Fowler, were also accused of being drunk and rowdy.

Steven Gerrard, the captain, and Peter Crouch are believed to have attempted to defuse the situation, but police were called and while no one was arrested or charged, one player – understood to be Dudek, the goalkeeper – is reported to have been momentarily placed in handcuffs before being released.

Although everyone trained the next morning and again yesterday, with the club putting on a united front and insisting that there were no divisions in the camp, BenÍtez – who was woken from his hotel room to deal with the matter – is understood to be furious that the players could behave in such a manner on the eve of arguably their biggest game of the season.

Having listened all week to talk of dissent in the Barcelona camp, the Liverpool manager is concerned that news of the rumpus could play into the Spanish team’s hands. Neither has word of the fracas been well received in the United States, with Gillett and Hicks thought to be dismayed about the adverse publicity and keen for action to be taken.

In a strongly worded statement issued yesterday, BenÍtez said that all those players deemed to have been involved will be fined, although a financial penalty is probably the least of Bellamy’s concerns.

While Dudek and Fowler were always going to be leaving the club at the end of the season – BenÍtez has already found a replacement for Fowler in Andriy Voronin, the Bayer Leverkusen and Ukraine striker, who has agreed in principle to a four-year deal that will commence in July – Bellamy’s future did at least appear his to decide.

Having warned the Wales striker about his behaviour when he signed for the club last June, the manager is said to feel “let down” by his actions. In December, the striker, who had a very public falling-out with Graeme Souness, the manager, when he was at Newcastle United, was acquitted of assaulting a woman in a Cardiff bar in December.

BenÍtez said: “I met this morning with the entire first-team squad and made it absolutely clear to all of them the responsibilities that come with playing for this club and the way they are expected to conduct themselves both on and off the pitch.

“The players worked extremely hard at last week’s training camp, but we will take disciplinary action and fine any of them who are found to have breached club rules during our stay in Portugal.

“Despite reports to the contrary, the spirit among the lads is very good with everyone looking forward to the game against Barcelona on Wednesday. We remain totally focused on what will be a tough game against the defending European champions.”

[Johnny]

I agree with you.

If i put a poll thread asking if people believe this tripe would the MODS merge it with this thread or leave it on it`s own,maybe it should be a sticky until we learn the truth.

[Shaggy]

I agree in sorts Shaggy but more the fact it could mean Agger playing. I just don't know if he's ready for such a big away game just yet.

Me neither but there's only one way to find out.

Agger's not grease lightning but I fancy we'll need what pace he does possess. If we go with a flat back four I'd opt for Carra & Agger.