Stevie Gerrard

[Shaggy]

Fair enough, opinions and all that

[Rigadon]

[Marky]

I think that is worse when he's on the right. He's called it a graveyard position himself. I think he believes in that position he is unable to influence the team and the team's tempo from there.

I think he has a point. We were abysmal against Olympiakos and he reacted well to that, we were abysmal in the first half of the Champions league final and he reacted well to that.
I do believe, no matter what the stats say, he is being played out of position and when he sees others not performing in his position, he gets dejected.

But he didn't play much (if any) better when he was moved into the middle and off the main striker, did he?
He's also played some other games in his preferred role this season and he's still been poor.

Dress it up all you want but Gerrard's had a really poor season.

[Red Chilli]

Gerrard seems to think of himself as the ball central, the playmaker. Unfortunately, that is not the case, he is not the man to do that imo.

He is the man to make runs in the box from central midfield, he's not a winger.

He is the type of player to set the tempo for the team and he can't do that on the right.

[Shaggy]

I think he can. He did often enough last season, and Alves sets the tone for Sevilla on an almost weekly basis from right full-back.

[Red Chilli]

[B]

But he didn't play much (if any) better when he was moved into the middle and off the main striker, did he?
He's also played some other games in his preferred role this season and he's still been poor.

Dress it up all you want but Gerrard's had a really poor season.

Not arguing with that, but he's been moved all over the place.
He doesn't want to play on the right, he's admitted that. If Rafa can't find a place for him in the middle then he should sell him because he's wasted out on the right.

[tomasjj]

He is the man to make runs in the box from central midfield, he's not a winger.

He is the type of player to set the tempo for the team and he can't do that on the right.

Agree on the first point.

On the second, I think he can, but we get no width then.

Maybe he should play off the striker again.

[Red Chilli]

I think he can. He did often enough last season, and Alves sets the tone for Sevilla on an almost weekly basis from right full-back.

Results this season would prove otherwise. Our best run of results came with Gerrard in the centre, regardless of his individual contribution, the team was better with him there.

[tomasjj]

Results this season would prove otherwise. Our best run of results came with Gerrard in the centre, regardless of his individual contribution, the team was better with him there.

And last season when he was on the right?

[Ron_Mexico]

if he was playing consistantly at CM and playing poorly then i could understand this attack

but he's playing RM in a team that cant pass the ball 5 yards, wtf is he supposed to do?

[Shaggy]

My point is it is possible to set the tone from the right-hand side. He's done it often enough, and Alves does it every week.

He's just not playing well, regardless of where he plays. That's the bottom line.

[Assassin]

Yet anther dismal thread from 'Marky19' today, surprised?
Well not really as he's been piss poor in the vast majority of threads this season.
Scapegoat? Nah, Speedy, Speedy, Speedy etc are all poor to say the least but really you would expect more from the bellend, wouldn't you?

Liverpool fc, chat chat chat, jokes, does'nt make a blind bit of difference.

Complete crap once again and it's just not on in my opinion.

:whatever:

[Red Chilli]

And last season when he was on the right?

Last season we had a different team out and we played better collectively.


I haven't analysed the results with him on the right versus results with him in the centre. I doubt it's as startling a difference as this season.

[Marky]

I don't think that has anything to do with it. Today, as Marky rightly said, he was moved to the centre, to off the front man, but it had no effect, and it's been the same for most of the season. He was poor wherever he played today, and he sulked throughout. Last season he was excellent wherever he played - right, middle, off the front - but it's been almost the complete opposite this season.

Exactly, he just doesn't have that spark/drive/awe about him this season atall, it's a conceren, it really is.
Stevie only 26 and all, should be at the peak of his powers.
Lets hope it's just one bad season and next season we'll see the Steven Gerrard of old.

[Red Chilli]

if he was playing consistantly at CM and playing poorly then i could understand this attack

but he's playing RM in a team that cant pass the ball 5 yards, wtf is he supposed to do?

When he was playing consistently in the centre we did much better.