Houllier's Legacy

[anfieldanfield]

Am I the only one with the same feeling now as the one I had about 18 months before Houllier left ?

That kind of sinking realisation that maybe, despite the Cups, this manager isn't the right man to take us forward.

[red g]

Am I the only one with the same feeling now as the one I had about 18 months before Houllier left ?

That kind of sinking realisation that maybe, despite the Cups, this manager isn't the right man to take us forward.

chelsea forward line = £54million
Man U forward line = 40million
Liverpools = 18million

I reckon with a 20million striker we would have seen different results this yr.

Remember Rafa has to concentrate on tactics as this squad is not good enough to compete at the top week in, week out.

Rafa is the man, and besides there is no-one else in the world at the moment who jumps out as a great choice.

Give him the money, give him a chance and then lets see.

and Rafa has got class, something that very few managers have nowadays, he is a liverpool manager through and through.

[JCase]

Am I the only one with the same feeling now as the one I had about 18 months before Houllier left ?

That kind of sinking realisation that maybe, despite the Cups, this manager isn't the right man to take us forward.

Rafa deserves the benefits of another 2-3 seasons. Lets see what he is able to do with the American dosh, where he is able to buy his first choice picks instead of the Pennants of the world.

[anfieldanfield]

chelsea forward line = £54million
Man U forward line = 40million
Liverpools = 18million

I reckon with a 20million striker we would have seen different results this yr.

Baros
Morientes
Cisse
Mellor
Pongolle
Crouch
Kuyt
Bellamy
Fowler

Sorry mate, but when it comes to strikers Rafa doesn't have a ****ing clue about buying them, selling them, training them, or getting the best out of them.

[captainfog]

Baros
Morientes
Cisse
Mellor
Pongolle
Crouch
Kuyt
Bellamy
Fowler

Sorry mate, but when it comes to strikers Rafa doesn't have a ****ing clue about buying them, selling them, training them, or getting the best out of them.

None of those are £20 million strikers though. That is a list of gambles that unfortunately have not come off.

Cisse and Mellor weren't his buys anyway

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None of those are £20 million strikers though. That is a list of gambles that unfortunately have not come off.

Cisse and Mellor weren't his buys anyway

cheers mate saved me the bother!!

Would love to see Rafa pay big, big money for a player....he has paid big for Alonso(qualified success) and Kuyt( first season but done ok)

and even then 11million for a striker is jack **** in todays market.

[red g]

Baros
Morientes
Cisse
Mellor
Pongolle
Crouch
Kuyt
Bellamy
Fowler

Sorry mate, but when it comes to strikers Rafa doesn't have a ****ing clue about buying them, selling them, training them, or getting the best out of them.

well half of them he never bought and were gash anyway.....dont think there is a manger in the world who wouldnt have risked morientes.

Crouch has done well and we will get more money back
Bellamy as above
Fowler ten yrs to late
Kuyt first season

[Trousers]

Baros
Morientes
Cisse
Mellor
Pongolle
Crouch
Kuyt
Bellamy
Fowler

Sorry mate, but when it comes to strikers Rafa doesn't have a ****ing clue about buying them, selling them, training them, or getting the best out of them.

Baros= Ged
Cisse=Ged
Mellor=Homegrown
Pongolle= Ged
Crouch= £7million
Bellamy=£6million
Morientes=£6million
Kuyt=£9million
Fowler=Free

We've spent a net total of £25million on strikers (Morientes sold for £3million) in Three years Chelsea spent £24million on one player that's what Rafa's up against Rooney+Saha=£38million.

Liverpool in it's history has only ever gone over £10miliion on four occasions three times by Ged and once by Rafa (Xabi=£10.7million), until Rafa can Compete on a level playing field then it's unfair to judge him. And before anyone mentions Arsenal they are in the same boat as ourselves it's just that they let Wenger control everything football wise thus they have a far better youth system in place were they are prepared to pay for and develop youth as a matter of priority, unlike ourselves, it took Rafa to have a go at the people running the club after the Arsenal Debacle before we started to get in gear with youth signings hence a spate of youngsters since january.

[matycowling1007]

Carragher, Finnan, Hyypia, Gerrard, Hamann, Riise, Baros...

Houllier's team (with Rafa's tactics) won the Champions league in 2005.

Smicer, traore, dudek .......

[Tee]

.......Certainly was. 100's of people through in a tenner each so that KT could buy 20 pounds worth of daffodils.

[Joe Le Toff]

chelsea forward line = £54million
Man U forward line = 40million
Liverpools = 18million

I reckon with a 20million striker we would have seen different results this yr.

Remember Rafa has to concentrate on tactics as this squad is not good enough to compete at the top week in, week out.

Rafa is the man, and besides there is no-one else in the world at the moment who jumps out as a great choice.

Give him the money, give him a chance and then lets see.

and Rafa has got class, something that very few managers have nowadays, he is a liverpool manager through and through.

Do you think Rafa will go and buy a 20 mill striker? I dont.
Rafa looks for strikers with a work ethic first.
Few top level goalscorers have that, they are goalscorers and headline grabbers first, arrogance and selfishness is what they possess in abundance and its a huge requirement to be the very best, goalscorer-wise.
I would be amazed if we see somebody along the lines of Etoo join us this summer.

[Red_hot]

Yeah that Treble did not really count ...

**** me

Pisses me right off when people slag Houllier off.

[Est1982]

GH has his time at the club,
Rafa is coming close to his time also

[red g]

GH has his time at the club,
Rafa is coming close to his time also

:whatever:

[red g]

Do you think Rafa will go and buy a 20 mill striker? I dont.
Rafa looks for strikers with a work ethic first.
Few top level goalscorers have that, they are goalscorers and headline grabbers first, arrogance and selfishness is what they possess in abundance and its a huge requirement to be the very best, goalscorer-wise.
I would be amazed if we see somebody along the lines of Etoo join us this summer.

rafa looks for strikers with work ethic first???? Ye he went for Kuyt and crouch.,.....but how does anyone know what he would do with £20million plus for a striker.....personally i reckon he will go for the one who can bang it in the net the most!!!

When the jigsaw pieces come togethor and we can get better players on the wings/ful backs and the strikers dont have to do as much .....lets see who he buys then!!

Do you ever think he buys players not because of how good they are, but more that they are versatile and cover defincies in our team?