Let's put second string in lower league

[bazza76]

Sorry Rafa, but this is a non starter. It may work in Spain but not in England. You can't kick an existing club out of the league so that big premiership sides can have 2 teams. Equally you couldn't have say Crewe as our 2nd string either as they are an established club with a supporter base of their own. Why should an existing club be ruined because we have no where to play our young talent.

What about starting them off at the bottomof the pile then and watch them get promoted through the divisions?
I know there could be competition issues and the like having two registered teams etc. but we would have to start somewhere.

[TheStig]

The B sides in Spain can't be promoted to the Primera.

[bazza76]

Or what about, just build up a relationship with someone like Crewe or Tranmere, and loan out best youth players into their teams for the season. Im sure they would welcome some of the best young tallent in the county in their squads with open arms.

[red g]

What about starting them off at the bottomof the pile then and watch them get promoted through the divisions?
I know there could be competition issues and the like having two registered teams etc. but we would have to start somewhere.

so you dont read my messages then

[bazza76]

The B sides in Spain can't be promoted to the Primera.

didnt realise that, how did they get to where they are though? is the reason they cqant be promoted into La Liga because, say, Real are already there?.

[red g]

I was thinking that myself

Question is - is the quality of football good enough at the lower levels, and how would a reserve player be able to be called up to the first team?

quality is rubbish, I live in harrogate town, nr the top of conference north and they are painful.....it would take around 10yrs and we would be in the leagues though

[bazza76]

so you dont read my messages then

no lol
just seen it now mate good idea

[Ryan_Derrick]

The B sides in Spain can't be promoted to the Primera.

What happens if the A side gets relegated?

[PTP]

either I have seen into the future or this has been covered - i'm sure rafa did this interview a few months ago and bascombe covered it in practically the same way, either way it is a very valid point about the reserve/youth leagues - 18 games a season is ****e, put the implications of intergrating the reserves are just to big - firstly how do you decide who can do it, in theory if you allow the big four to do it then surely you have to allow every team in the prem league to do it - Then you have 20 reserve teams to accomodate into the lower leagues, how? you can't just kick the likes of Hull City, Wycombe Wanderers, Everton etc out of the football league.

The reserve system certainly needs to be revamped/adjusted - how i don't know, maybe a cup competition specifically for reserves to run during the reserve season.

On a side note, the stupid thing is if the reserves played 30/40 games a season all the managers would be kicking off saying it's ridiculous, the first team play so many games we try to rotate the squad but all the reserves are injured/burnout as well.

[Ben_Itez]

I dont quite understand why there are so few reserve games!??

Surely some kind of u21 league would be a good idea with say 2/3 over age players allowed to play (coming back from injuries etc). Surely Premiership clubs have big enough squads or am i wrong?

Either that or create some more reserve tournaments with the bigger clubs/squads similar to the Scottish league where they play each other 4 times or summat. The reserves would love to play more games against the scum, chavs, arsenal etc and they'd be playing against better players more regularly.

It's clear that something has to be done.

[red g]

bring back the pontins league !!!

[dww]

Or what about, just build up a relationship with someone like Crewe or Tranmere, and loan out best youth players into their teams for the season. Im sure they would welcome some of the best young tallent in the county in their squads with open arms.

I've advocated this for a while now. I agree with the comments made on this thread about it being unfair to existing clubs to knock a team out of the league to allow our reserves to play, and to start our B team at the bottom of the pyramid is no help to anyone.

The problem with loaning players out to different teams is that you rely on their coaches being good enough and particularly with defenders have to hope they organise their team in a reasonably similar way to the our first team for the experience to be as effective as possible.

The best compromise would seem to be allowing us to loan a set number of players on bulk to our feeder team in the league. We would then support them in terms of coaching possibly and certainly financially. So many smaller clubs are struggling for monet that this system could help everybody involved.

[red g]

I've advocated this for a while now. I agree with the comments made on this thread about it being unfair to existing clubs to knock a team out of the league to allow our reserves to play, and to start our B team at the bottom of the pyramid is no help to anyone.

The problem with loaning players out to different teams is that you rely on their coaches being good enough and particularly with defenders have to hope they organise their team in a reasonably similar way to the our first team for the experience to be as effective as possible.

The best compromise would seem to be allowing us to loan a set number of players on bulk to our feeder team in the league. We would then support them in terms of coaching possibly and certainly financially. So many smaller clubs are struggling for monet that this system could help everybody involved.

So a team with zero ambition??? The thing is look at say portsmouth/Reading etc......The team we choose would have to stick in the lower leagues Forever, any of the teams could get a wealthy benefactor and fund there rise to the top.

[Draxdor]

Put 'em in the Scottish League?

[lfc4ever]

Put 'em in the Scottish League?

They'd qualify for Europe within a year.