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    Guess Rafa's tactics for the final...

    Lately, sort of to curb my nervousness, either if it's about the game itself or the ticket situation, I have been trying to guess the approach Rafa will choose for the final. Not crystal clear, but I think I got a fair idea.
    The latest news of Zendens injury slightly altered what I had initially thought as well.

    At the back I see no surprises, even though Zendens injury opened up the possibility for Riise at left mid. Arbeloas form lately negated that idea, I felt.

    I think Rafa will go for SG on the right.
    This is mainly due to Milan being strong up through the middle. Sounds odd, you might say, but with Alonso and Masch in the middle we can stop Kaka and Pirlo from running the play and also release SG down the right or where ever he wants to roam.

    One worry is that Masch and Xabi will occupy the same space and get in each others ways, but I reckon Xabi will play a little more advanced. This also depends on how offensively Milan plays from the off.

    Now with Zendens injury and Rafas latest comments I think Kewell will start. I think he trusts Kewell more and will choose him before Pennant on the right and SG on the left. It could be that Arbeloa has played better lately though and that Riise will push forward. I would be surprised though. Kewells ball retention is vital against a team of AC Milans capability. Riise, as we know is **** at that. This also lets us keep to players out wide who can keep the ball, beat a man and cross. The only buts being Kewells defensive capacity and SG positional dicipline to help Finnan out. But with Milan usually playing narrow I don't see this as crucial. Our fullbacks will probs sit back though, as Milan strikers/Kaka seek wide positions.

    Up front I think it will be Crouch and Kuyt. Not many options there except using SG behind Crouch, but Kuyt will play. Defo. Having Kewell and SG on the flanks will be a plus with those two towers in the middle.

    As for the tempo and defensive line I reckon we will just be fairly quick out of the blocks and try to establish control and contain play. Compact as Rafa says, but without risking much. I can see us playing the waiting game, like Rafa tried last time but was outdone by the 1st quick goal. If that happens again I reckon Rafa will be more patient this time and not lunge forward.
    I don't think we will sit back with a low defensive line though. That is too dangerous, we want to stop them further up.

    I can see us trying to win back the ball high up the pitch for limited periods of time to force break downs and quick attacks. This is very dangerous for Milan and will be decided by how well they can keep the ball and a cool head.

    The key issues will of course be in midfield, mainly between Gattuso/Pirlo and SG/Xabi/Mascher. One of those will sit on Kaka, and I reckon it will be Mascher and Carra combined, dependent on how much Kaka moves...which is usually a lot. He also likes to move out to into the channels, so SG might also be occupied in closing him down.

    Hey..thats enough from me...over to you now.

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    #2
    To be honest mate i agree totally with your starting line up, Pennant Bellamy and Sissoko to come on as subs if needed for me, and i think the tactics sound about right, i'd find it hard to disagree with anything you said there
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      #3
      I think it could be either one of 2.

      Less likely

      .......................................Reina
      ...Finnan................Carra...............Agger ..............Riise
      ...Pennant..............Xabi................Javier (marking Kaka)Kewell
      .......................................Stevie
      .......................................Crouch

      More likely

      .......................................Reina
      ...Finnan.............Carra.....................Ag ger..............Arbeloa
      ...Stevie.............Xabi....................Javi er(marking Kaka)Riise
      ........................Crouch...................K uyt
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        #4
        Originally posted by Morphorino View Post
        To be honest mate i agree totally with your starting line up, Pennant Bellamy and Sissoko to come on as subs if needed for me, and i think the tactics sound about right, i'd find it hard to disagree with anything you said there




        haha.... it's all good, mate.
        not complete bollocks then I reckon.
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          #5
          Originally posted by kurtangle01 View Post
          I think it could be either one of 2.

          Less likely

          .......................................Reina
          ...Finnan................Carra...............Agger ..............Riise
          ...Pennant..............Xabi................Javier (marking Kaka)Kewell
          .......................................Stevie
          .......................................Crouch

          More likely

          .......................................Reina
          ...Finnan.............Carra.....................Ag ger..............Arbeloa
          ...Stevie.............Xabi....................Javi er(marking Kaka)Riise
          ........................Crouch...................K uyt
          Care to explain your reasoning behind your thoughts?
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            #6
            Originally posted by tomasjj View Post




            haha.... it's all good, mate.
            not complete bollocks then I reckon.
            I was trying to think of something different to write to challenge you but seriously thats the exact lineup I had in my head, the only thing i've been thinking that could happen would be Stevie playing off 1 striker and Pennant on the right, but I don't see either Crouch or Kuyt being left out. I think Maldini is going to be a weak link on that side tho so I hope we capitalise with a speedy player on that side which is why i'd like to see Pennant play, but he would leave gaps behind
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              #7
              Originally posted by kurtangle01 View Post
              I think it could be either one of 2.

              Less likely

              .......................................Reina
              ...Finnan................Carra...............Agger ..............Riise
              ...Pennant..............Xabi................Javier (marking Kaka)Kewell
              .......................................Stevie
              .......................................Crouch

              More likely

              .......................................Reina
              ...Finnan.............Carra.....................Ag ger..............Arbeloa
              ...Stevie.............Xabi....................Javi er(marking Kaka)Riise
              ........................Crouch...................K uyt
              I very much doubt Arbeloa will play, just my own personal opinion like
              Thomas Hicks Senior

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                #8
                .......................................Reina
                ...Finnan.............Carra.....................Ag ger..............Arbeloa

                ...Stevie.............Xabi....................Javi er.................Riise
                ...................................Kuyt
                ...........................................Crouch

                If Bolo is fit then he will start on the left midfield and Riise will return to left back.

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                  #9
                  I kind of wanted to dig a bit deeper than just a lineup thread...just saying like.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tomasjj View Post
                    Care to explain your reasoning behind your thoughts?

                    Okay.

                    First tactic gives us a really solid spine. Stevie would be able to push forward and suplement the attack but would also be able to help Xabi and Mascherano out with some defensive duties in the middle of the pitch when needed. Playing a 5 man midfield would help us retain our shape in midfield and would hopefully mean that we don't get pulled all over the place from the likes of Seedorf, Pirlo and Kaka. Playing Crouch up front would hopefully mean that we can get the ball out of midfield quickly aswell, if he could hold it up long enough for Stevie, Harry and Pennant to join in. Playing Kewell and Pennat would mean that we could get crosses into the box for Crouch and the rest of the lads to get on the end of.

                    The second tactic is probably the most likely. It gives us a strong back 4 but also gives us good defensive cover in the wide areas. It might leave us a bit short in the middle though. Playing Crouch and Kuyt would hopefully give Maldini and Nesta some trouble. The work rate of Kuyt closing down and the height of Crouch would hopefully be quite a bit for them to handle. One of the problems I see with this tactic are when Stevie starts to roam we could leave Finnan exposed and as such lose our shape.

                    Bellamy wouldn't start but could hopefully come on and use his pace to good effect if the Milan defence tire. I wouldn't put Momo naywhere near the the line up unless he is really needed to help defend a lead for 1 minutes or so. Ball retention will be a must against Milan and sadly for Momo he gives the ball away far to much.
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                      #11
                      I'm curious as to why peeps are picking Arbeloa in at left back anyone care to explain?
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                        #12
                        P.S.

                        We must man mark Kaka and Mascherano would be the man to do it for me. We can't go giving him the space that the scum did. The lad's a great player and will punish us if he's not well shackled.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Morphorino View Post
                          I'm curious as to why peeps are picking Arbeloa in at left back anyone care to explain?

                          Lack of defensive cover, mainly. If Bolo is out and assuming Riise plays at left wing who else would play at left back?
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by kurtangle01 View Post
                            Lack of defensive cover, mainly. If Bolo is out and assuming Riise plays at left wing who else would play at left back?
                            why would you sacrifice our stable back line tho, for the sake of pushing riise up?

                            furthermore arbeloa would usually only play if meelan went with a left footer on the right hand side
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                              #15
                              I think he'll go out to win.

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