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    Liverpool profit will service new owners' loan


    · Hicks compares fans to consumers of Weetabix
    · Deal similar to Glazers' takeover at Old Trafford

    Lawrence Donegan in Dallas
    Tuesday May 22, 2007
    The Guardian

    Liverpool's preparations for tomorrow night's Champions League final in Athens against Milan took an embarrassing detour last night when the American owner Tom Hicks compared his recent purchase of the storied Anfield club to a previous business deal which saw him buy the breakfast cereal company Weetabix. In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, the billionaire Texan also confirmed for the first time that the club's profits would be used to meet the interest payments on the loan that enabled him and his partner, George Gillett, to buy the club - a business model similar to the controversial deal allowing the Glazer family to take control of Manchester United.

    In contrast to the Glazers, Hicks and Gillett have been welcomed with open arms in England after taking over at Anfield. The pair paid £178m for the club, borrowed from the Royal Bank of Scotland, with interest payments on the loan amounting to over £21m a year. "Hopefully the club will have extra cash flow so they can pay us a dividend to do that," Hicks said when asked how the cost of the loan would be met. "If they don't, then it will come from our pockets. But the club will have to have profits sufficient to pay those dividends."

    Responding to the suggestion this was the same kind of financial arrangement that incensed critics of the Glazers, Hicks was both candid and unrepentant. "When I was in the leverage buy-out business we bought Weetabix and we leveraged it up to make our return. You could say that anyone who was eating Weetabix was paying for our purchase of Weetabix. It was just business. It is the same for Liverpool; revenues come in from whatever source and go out to whatever source and, if there is money left over, it is profit," he said.

    Hicks, who will be in Athens to watch his team take on Milan, was equally candid about the way the Glazers went about their takeover at Old Trafford, describing it as a "blueprint of what not to do", even if it eased their own move into English football.

    "They were the first," he said. "There were fans who honestly believed that, if an American owner came in and borrowed some of the purchase price, it could be the end of the club's success. I think things changed when people saw that the Glazers didn't necessarily turn out to be the end of Manchester football." Hicks, who made his fortune buying and selling companies around the globe, currently owns two American sports teams, the Dallas Stars ice hockey team and baseball's Texas Rangers.

    He described his first two months in charge at Anfield as a "honeymoon". Since taking over he has attended three of Liverpool's matches, away to West Ham and the two home European ties against Barcelona and Chelsea. "I also went to a game at Arsenal. They have enthusiastic fans but it wasn't like at Liverpool. They don't have the Kop - the ardent passion, the songs, the chants, the cheers. The level [of noise] at the Barça match was amazing but at the Chelsea game it was at another level altogether."

    Hicks has enjoyed mixed fortunes with his American sports teams, with the Dallas Stars winning ice hockey's ultimate prize, the Stanley Cup. The Texas Rangers, on the other hand, have not finished higher than third in their four-team division since 2000 and are currently mired at the base of the American League West.

    In the circumstances it is scarcely any wonder Hicks is delighted to see Liverpool progress to tomorrow night's final, although he admitted he could not take any of the credit for the team's success. "I feel kind of guilty. It's like buying a baseball team a month before they go to the world series. I had nothing to do with it but I'm going to enjoy it," he said.
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    #2
    i am a little bit concerned here....i feel sure i remember both the yanks saying at the press conference that they bought us outright and DIDNT need to borrow money to do it...could be wrong or i may have misunderstood...hope they are not JUST saying the right things to win us over...sometimes what they say seems to good to be true...hope i am wrong though

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      #3
      If there is one thing Americans are very very good at, its business. They will transform this club and make a lot of money for them selves in the process
      Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
      #****CITY

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        #4
        This all came up a few months back.

        They did take a loan to buy the club, but then again, with the exception of an elite few… not many individuals or companies in the world could.

        The difference is that the loan is secured by H&G personally (or another one of their companies) rather than being secured against the club. This is the fundamental difference between their takeover of Liverpool and the United takeovere where funds were secured against the club itself.

        Technically Liverpool isn’t in any debt, H&G are…. But they will use dividend payments which they will receive from the club to pay off the debts.

        In simple terms they are using the club to buy the club….

        The reason DM couldn’t do the same is that he wasn’t able to secure a large loan, and the club was at its maximum loan capacity.

        H&G have basically given the club cash flow!

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          #5
          ps nothing wrong with what they have done

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            #6
            Originally posted by Michael View Post
            This all came up a few months back.

            They did take a loan to buy the club, but then again, with the exception of an elite few… not many individuals or companies in the world could.

            The difference is that the loan is secured by H&G personally (or another one of their companies) rather than being secured against the club. This is the fundamental difference between their takeover of Liverpool and the United takeovere where funds were secured against the club itself.

            Technically Liverpool isn’t in any debt, H&G are…. But they will use dividend payments which they will receive from the club to pay off the debts.

            In simple terms they are using the club to buy the club….

            The reason DM couldn’t do the same is that he wasn’t able to secure a large loan, and the club was at its maximum loan capacity.

            H&G have basically given the club cash flow!
            Are you an accountant Michael ?

            What do you mean by H & G giving the club a cash flow ? Does it mean that all debts have been cleared, therefore allowing cash being used to 'invest' rather than pay debts ?

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              #7
              I’m not an accountant, fortunately!!!

              I have some passing knowledge on the subject, but most of what I have said was in one of the broadsheets a while back.

              As for the cash flow… as I understand it… the club has been freed from the burden of debt and has not contractual obligation to pay off the Bank of Scotland debt.

              So in theory the club can spend it’s cash freely … or even take out a whole set of new loans!

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                #8
                M is right. Hicks and Gillette have taken on the loan NOT the club. They have then loand this loan to the club, any profits the club make help service the loan to G and H not the bank.

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                  #9
                  Very Poor Report.

                  As Michael stated the Big Difference is that Liverpool Club have no Debts whereas Man Utd have debts in excess of 400 million. Difference being that the Banks theoretically own Utd and should things go pear shaped, they will seize the assets of the club. With us they will seize assets of G&H.

                  Very few people could afford to buy a club like Liverpool with cash money and even if they could it would be silly. The money is far better used to secure a loan far more than face value.

                  Anybody who expects the owners just to pump in money and have no return on their investment is deluded. Off course they will draw a dividend, just like the previous shareholders could have done and how they use that money is really their business.

                  They have already stated their intent to improve the squad and a Stadium was part of selling agreement. This article was written by someone with a hidden agenda
                  "For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son"

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                    #10
                    This article amounts to the 'journo' saying the H&G expect LFC to pay them a dividend..Shock, Horror. Of course they do! What else did anyone expect. That dividend will be used to service their (personal) borrowings and generate a profit as well - so they have a vested interest in us being financially succesful. As Tom has pointed out, LFC are not in debt, or have any secured loans against them - H&G do (or Kop Ltd does, probably). MU as a club/company are heavily indebted, and any financial downturn would have serious effects on their status.

                    Although it is true that if we don't generate sufficient dividends (profit), H&G may well choose to cash in to pay off their debts, so financial underperformance would still lead to instability of a different kind - but except for Abramovich's Chelsea, that's true for any club.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by lfc4ever View Post
                      http://football.guardian.co.uk/champ...src=rss&feed=7

                      Responding to the suggestion this was the same kind of financial arrangement that incensed critics of the Glazers, Hicks was both candid and unrepentant. "When I was in the leverage buy-out business we bought Weetabix and we leveraged it up to make our return. You could say that anyone who was eating Weetabix was paying for our purchase of Weetabix. It was just business. It is the same for Liverpool; revenues come in from whatever source and go out to whatever source and, if there is money left over, it is profit," he said.
                      the major difference here is that the scum was already a plc churning out profit like the fat cash cow T-shirt selling business it is. The scum have a lot to lose - and in my opinion, theyre losing it.

                      lfc was a momsy popsy old fashioned privately owned outfit, run incompetently in business terms and NOT making the same kind of profit. Our transfer budget was getting decidedly tight in top flight terms. we have little or nothing to lose. Any profits heading to the yanks pockets are money lfc would never have made without substantial changes. that didnt have to be a takeover but a takeover was tthe quickest way and a takeover we have had.
                      drunk knows best

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                        #12
                        MONEY IS NO OBJECT
                        Hicks: We'll back Rafa and make his dreams come true
                        Neil Mcleman 22/05/2007

                        NEW Liverpool owner Tom Hicks has promised to back manager Rafa Benitez in the transfer market this summer - 'whatever the price'.

                        The American businessman bought the club for £220million with partner George Gillett in February.

                        And on the eve of the Champions League Final against AC Milan in Athens, Hicks has promised more investment to buy the world's best. "Liverpool should be one of the top one or two clubs in all of football - that's our ambition," he told ITV Sport.

                        "There will be substantial funds available to Rafa Benitez. It's player specific. If Rafa has a player he really wants - and who costs a lot of money but he can show where he fits in - we'll do it, whatever the price."

                        Liverpool's record transfer fee remains the £14m for Djibril Cisse in July 2004. But with the Reds linked with strikers Fernando Torres and Carlos Tevez, that figure looks set to be shattered as Benitez aims to build a squad capable of competing for the Premiership title, as well as the Champions League next season.

                        Yet Hicks is trusting his manager, whose biggest signing has been Dirk Kuyt for £9m, not to waste money.

                        "Rafa is a very smart man," he said. "He's not going to over-pay. There's been some very bad contracts signed but Rafa's smart about that, he's not afraid to step up. He's talked to us about some ideas, they're younger players without injury questions and who are highly motivated.

                        "We're prepared to sign a player at the very top end - the world's best if Rafa recommends it."

                        Key to the Americans' plan is the building of a new stadium with a capacity of 61,000 but which can be expanded to 'somewhere in the mid to high 70s'. Hicks said: "It's going to be unique to Liverpool, where the most prominent feature will be the new Kop. The new Kop will be bigger.

                        "It'll be like the symphony stage playing to the rest of the symphony hall. We'll create the stadium where it is an entertainment hall around the Kop. It's not going to be symmetrical, it's going to be unique. Each side is going to be different, which is the way stadiums have grown up in England."

                        Hicks, who owns the Dallas Stars NHL ice hockey club and the Texas Rangers baseball team in the MLB, picked out Pepe Reina as his favourite player after his penalty heroics in the semi-final win over Chelsea.

                        "With experience in hockey I know the value of the goaltender as it is there and the goalkeeper as it is in football. The goalkeeper is the most important player on the pitch."

                        The Texan says Liverpool will be underdogs against the Italians but added: "Rafa is such a good tactician, I'm counting on a win."

                        THE interview will be shown during ITV1's UEFA Champions League Final: Preview From Athens, at 11.00pm tonight.

                        CLICKY - The Mirror
                        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                          #13
                          Can't wait to watch that on itv tonight and there's also a programme on Sky Sports 1 at 10pm also - will really put me in the mood for the Final tomorrow night!

                          Beginning to feel the nervous tension already!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tom View Post
                            M is right. Hicks and Gillette have taken on the loan NOT the club. They have then loand this loan to the club, any profits the club make help service the loan to G and H not the bank.
                            Thanks for clearing that up Tom
                            24Carra Gold
                            Carra Carra Carra

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                              #15
                              im happy with the new owners and hope that they will back up these promises over the summer, im positive they will. I am also getting this nervous tension regarding tomorrow night...but i love it!!! This is what football is all about!! come on you redmen!!!!
                              RAFA

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