Bascombe has a pop at new owners?

[El Jefecito]

People who don't think that Bascombe has very good and highly developed links with the club are, not to put too fine a point on it, very wrong indeed.

Leto, Voronin, Lucas.

No one doubts he has links, but he's not getting as much info as he used too.

The stuff he has been first on would appear to come from people on the periphery, unlike the old days when he and Houiller were on good terms.

His stock has definitely gone down since Rafa joined.

[Guest]

however it must be said as a journo he does tend to go a bit ott with certain things, was it after the Arsenal cup matches that he practically had a breakdown when writing his column telling us that we aren't nearly as good as we think we are etc, 5 months later Euro cup final - just making a point that he might be stretching the truth ever so slightly

Hmmm ... We're still 21 points behind United despite reaching the European Cup Final.

Bascombe's been right each time he's talked about Rafa's problems in the transfer market.

[DannyMan2006]

People who don't think that Bascombe has very good and highly developed links with the club are, not to put too fine a point on it, very wrong indeed.

Tom, I respect your opinion on here, but why does Bascombe contradict himself all the time? It's golden sky one minute and then storm clouds the next.

I do trust his articles are good, which is why I read them, but I do doubt his insider status. That is my opinion, as stted already I know nothing and don't expect anyone to prove otherwise, what do you care what I think?

Time will tell as everybody has agreed on.

[DannyMan2006]

Hmmm ... We're still 21 points behind United despite reaching the European Cup Final.

Bascombe's been right each time he's talked about Rafa's problems in the transfer market.

But wrong when he said we were lightyears away from Arsenal and our season was over having gambled too much on success in Europe. I seem to remember he doubted our ability to beat Barca.

To be fair most did, but thats all he does, canvasses popular opinion.

[Guest]

But wrong when he said we were lightyears away from Arsenal and our season was over having gambled too much on success in Europe. I seem to remember he doubted our ability to beat Barca.

To be fair most did, but thats all he does, canvasses popular opinion.

I think Bascombe does that on purpose. At the end of the day, Rafa had to gamble on these cup matches because ultimately we didn't have the depth of squad needed to compete on all these levels.

[Tom]

Bascombe doesn't contradict himself. He's consistantly said that we can forget about competing until we get major funds. He was also the first person to publish the story about tension between rafa and parry in regard to signing players.

So occaisionally he gets caught out regarding transfers, but things change very quickly in football.

[Rashid]

The thing with the club is that they know Bascombe has contacts there, indeeed even Parry uses the Echo for propaganda, anyone remember the DIC are great and Gillette is a groundsharer articles? Those were from Parry.

Whatever he is writing now, the club knows about, hence why nothing id direct but only digs. You can be sure the information is coming from people like McPharlands, and others on the staff.

[tomasjj]

Its all well and good saying relax and give them a chance, but Hicks has owned the rangers for almost 10 years and, to be quite frank, they seem to be mediocre to say the least.

My concerns are not the result of a lack of transfer activity. Firstly, I did not have expect us to be buying the cream of world football, maybe one or two top players. I certainly did not expect to have purchased anyone of any significance within the first couple of weeks.

What does worry me is the information that is being presented to us regarding our new owners other sporting ventures. We were all so happy to finally have this club in the hands of a pair of buisness men that have promised us the world, but when you look at the fortunes of the texas rangers and the canadiens since the turn of the centuty, what you'll find are performances that will look all too familiar to Liverpool fans.

Texas Rangers
2000 4th
2001 4th
2002 4th
2003 4th
2004 3rd
2005 3rd
2006 3rd
Montreal Canadiens
2001-02 4th
2002-03 4th
2003-04 4th
2005-06 3rd
2006-07 4th

Reading a few fan forums and there seems to be a great deal of negativity amongst their supporters and a lot of it seems to be landing on the feet of Hicks in particular, much as these forums were (towards Moores) before their arrival.

I have concerns about this club. Moores and Parry were widely ridiculed with their business dealings or lack of, yet the majority seem to be happy that they made the right decision selling to H&G, but on what basis? I was extremely enthusiastic when I believed that we finally had owners with the finances to take us forward, but since that time I have only read negative opinions on our new owners from the fans and the american press.

I do not now believe that we will have the financial backing to take on the top two on the evidence of what I've read. It seems to me that both Hicks & Gillett are quite happy to be involved with teams that always end up there or there abouts.

I also now believe that Rafa will be gone at the end of next season when his fears become a reality.

If you had included Dallas Stars it would look a bit better. Not fantastically, but better.

[Tom]

The club and the echo need each other. It's an "I scratch your back" relationship and very different from the one that the club has to the national papers.

Chris Bascombe is generally pretty liked at the club.

[Morph]

Bascombe doesn't contradict himself. He's consistantly said that we can forget about competing until we get major funds. (well it doesn't take a genius to figure that out) He was also the first person to publish the story about tension between rafa and parry in regard to signing players. (fair enough, but it obvious there were problems rafa has mentioned it before)

So occaisionally he gets caught out regarding transfers, but things change very quickly in football.(I don't doubt his knowledge on transfers just his propensity to exagerate things slightly)

[DannyMan2006]

Bascombe doesn't contradict himself. He's consistantly said that we can forget about competing until we get major funds. He was also the first person to publish the story about tension between rafa and parry in regard to signing players.

So occaisionally he gets caught out regarding transfers, but things change very quickly in football.

I think most people have said that!

And the supposed tension was printed by the whole of europe at the same time as Rafa told the journos this on a plane back from Athens! It's just Bascombes opinion that it's all down to a stand off between Parry and Benitez, which in all honesty is probably bollocks.

Rafas frustration was aimed at the owners is my way of reading into his quotes. Benitez has publicly praised Parry on many occasions and has has never slagged him off.

I'm not a fan of Parrys I can assure you, but Rafa is not at war with him.

[Guest]

I think most people have said that!

And the supposed tension was printed by the whole of europe at the same time as Rafa told the journos this on a plane back from Athens! It's just Bascombes opinion that it's all down to a stand off between Parry and Benitez, which in all honesty is probably bollocks.

Rafas frustration was aimed at the owners is my way of reading into his quotes. Benitez has publicly praised Parry on many occasions and has has never slagged him off.

I'm not a fan of Parrys I can assure you, but Rafa is not at war with him.

I won't criticize Parry until I know the full ramifications of it all. People have been quick to add 2 and 2 together and conclude that Rafa and him had fallen out, which may have been slightly erroneous.

[Rocket]

I won't criticize Parry until I know the full ramifications of it all. People have been quick to add 2 and 2 together and conclude that Rafa and him had fallen out, which may have been slightly erroneous.

been reading the dictionary on the toilet again fredo?

[Guest]

been reading the dictionary on the toilet again fredo?

Yes, forgot that these words aren't part of a trainee accountants life.

[DannyMan2006]

I won't criticize Parry until I know the full ramifications of it all. People have been quick to add 2 and 2 together and conclude that Rafa and him had fallen out, which may have been slightly erroneous.

You see Fredo that's entirely my point, not all of Bascombes articles have the element of truth about them, it will either be his own opinion or he will say "Rumours abound" which in all honesty counts for feck all.

I wont argue that Bascombe will come across stuff every now and again, but alot of what he writes will have no foundation to it and will purely be his or others thoughts on certain situations.