Three years to the day...

[Reds08]

Read it again. I'm sorry if it isn't/if I wasn't clear.

O'Neill and Hughes take a step up (with better resources) for there previous achievements and are still short of where LFC are today! i.e 5th or 6th.

Raffa and LFC take a step further, agian with better resources, Champions!!

What have O'Niell and Hughes achieved anyway?? You could I suppose argue O'Niels case for winning in Scotland but please don't try to compare to Prem.

Raffa has won a very difficult league in Spain. He has the experience.

Apology reluctantly accepted. I still don't agree with you though.

[The Glove]

When the hell have I mentioned United? You are saying I am pro-scum for mentioning the three said managers which you have then suggested as possible slur replacements. You are ****ing paranoid mate.

Hughes has taken Blackburn to two FA Cup semi finals, O'Neill won the league cup (maybe twice) with Leicester. Very decent achievements for clubs of that size . Hardly not showing anything.

Havent the big clubs been not that arsed with the league cup tho? Middlesboro won it the other year didnt they? Should we get McClaren?

West Ham got to the final of the FA Cup. Should we get Pardew?

[MindGuerrillas]

Hughes has taken Blackburn to two FA Cup semi finals, O'Neill won the league cup (maybe twice) with Leicester. Very decent achievements for clubs of that size . Hardly not showing anything.

One word, Souness

O'Neill's record is no better than his. Would you want him back in charge?

MO has won a couple of leagues in Scotland and a league cup down here with a small team , Souness has won more than that.(4 Scottish leagues at Rangers, League cup at Blackburn, FA Cup with us)

MO has done nothing that would make him qualified to take over at a top 4 club.

[redblood]

No he hasn't. I'm sorry, but no he ****ing hasn't.

In La Liga you **** that's countering your argument for Hiddink you ignoramous.

[Graybach]

When the hell have I mentioned United? You are saying I am pro-scum for mentioning the three said managers which you have then suggested as possible slur replacements. You are ****ing paranoid mate.

Hughes has taken Blackburn to two FA Cup semi finals, O'Neill won the league cup (maybe twice) with Leicester. Very decent achievements for clubs of that size . Hardly not showing anything.

Whoopy ****in doo!!!

Raffa has taken us to two Chapions League finals and an FA Cup final winning two them and out-playing Milan in the other outstanding achievments for a club of any size.

You also have to remember that Raffa hasn't bought about 5 players for x amount, he's had to buy about 10 players for that x amount as he overhauls the team! He's also re-structuring the club at the same time. Not to mention,again, the fact that under him LFC achieved their highest ever points total.

When will you actually look at just what Raffa has achieved in 3 years!

[Graybach]

Apology reluctantly accepted. I still don't agree with you though.

:whatever:

I've reached my conclusion with this guy/girl

[redblood]

Whoopy ****in doo!!!

Raffa has taken us to two Chapions League finals and an FA Cup final winning two them and out-playing Milan in the other outstanding achievments for a club of any size.

You also have to remember that Raffa hasn't bought about 5 players for x amount, he's had to buy about 10 players for that x amount as he overhauls the team! He's also re-structuring the club at the same time. Not to mention,again, the fact that under him LFC achieved their highest ever points total.

When will you actually look at just what Raffa has achieved in 3 years!

He won't because he's ignorant.

[Skillz]

**** me.

I didnt realise Rafa was the problem. When some of youj wake up and realise what a talent we have in Rafa the better.

Who are we gonna get that can attract talent like Reina and Alonso. How much does it cost to rebuild when everyone leaves.

It's time people realised how lucky we are to have Rafa. I suspect they will in a few weeks when we have finished buying.

[redblood]

**** me.

I didnt realise Rafa was the problem. When some of youj wake up and realise what a talent we have in Rafa the better.

Who are we gonna get that can attract talent like Reina and Alonso. How much does it cost to rebuild when everyone leaves.

It's time people realised how lucky we are to have Rafa. I suspect they will in a few weeks when we have finished buying.

Fully agreed mate I can't stand that people don't see it, he's not above criticism and he's not perfect but he's a seriously good manager and will prove his worth if backed properly.
The same people who want him gone are probably the ones who wanted Moorses out and now are unhappy with G & H.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

And long may it continue

[StevieG08]

Flmao at people still debating with this WUM, this 14 year old manc must be dreading his parents getting back and booting him off the PC because he's having so much fun.

[akjs123]

No no no. If you look over the main points I have made since my glorious arrival- they read as follows;
1. Voronin is not good enough for Liverpool FC, free or not.
2. Samuel Eto'o will not be a Liverpool player next year.
3. We are as far from winning the league with Rafa as we were under Ged.

They are the three serious issues I have become embroiled with. Which bits of this do you disagree with? Be honest, I'm not wrong am I.....

I disagree with everything you say. Here are your answers

1. How much have you seen Voronin play to be saying that. He will be 4th choice striker at the club, just like Robbie was. I am sure people were saying this when we were linked with Peter Crouch and we actually paid a transfer fee for him.

2. Only Eto'o, people at Barca and Liverpool and agents would know something concrete on that. You and I can only speculate. Besides, there are other top forwards we might buy if not Eto'o and we might then do better than we could have with Eto'o. But its all predicting the future isnt it and dont you think you are going a bit too far with it. You dont even know how much transfer budget Rafa has.

3. How many points did we have at the end of 05/06 season. How many did current league champions have that season. How many points do Chelsea have this season. Keep in mind that in that season, we had started from first qualifier of CL, went midseason to Japan and returned with jetlag and still managed so 82 points. With minimum rest after CL win due to first round qualifiers and the worldcup the next season, we started this season poorly and that is why we didnt get enough points as last season. Also bear in mind that we had Kewell injured for 1 season and Garcia for half a season.
With a better squad than we had then and fresh players, I cant see why we cant match the 82 points or even do better this season, that is if we are lucky in the injury department.

[StevieG08]

I disagree with everything you say. Here are your answers

1. How much have you seen Voronin play to be saying that. He will be 4th choice striker at the club, just like Robbie was. I am sure people were saying this when we were linked with Peter Crouch and we actually paid a transfer fee for him.

2. Only Eto'o, people at Barca and Liverpool and agents would know something concrete on that. You and I can only speculate. Besides, there are other top forwards we might buy if not Eto'o and we might then do better than we could have with Eto'o. But its all predicting the future isnt it and dont you think you are going a bit too far with it. You dont even know how much transfer budget Rafa has.

3. How many points did we have at the end of 05/06 season. How many did current league champions have that season. How many points do Chelsea have this season. Keep in mind that in that season, we had started from first qualifier of CL, went midseason to Japan and returned with jetlag and still managed so 82 points. With minimum rest after CL win due to first round qualifiers and the worldcup the next season, we started this season poorly and that is why we didnt get enough points as last season. Also bear in mind that we had Kewell injured for 1 season and Garcia for half a season.
With a better squad than we had then and fresh players, I cant see why we cant match the 82 points or even do better this season, that is if we are lucky in the injury department.

Well done fella.

[Morph]

....and are as far away from winning the Premiership as ever.

Oh but we have won the charity shield and super cup, so that's ok then.

Here's a question....

For all the Rafa worshippers- where do you honestly think we will finish in the league next season? Me- 3rd or 4th- again. Good enough?

so are we accepting 3rd next season, again, is that good enough?

No no no. If you look over the main points I have made since my glorious arrival- they read as follows;
1. Voronin is not good enough for Liverpool FC, free or not.
2. Samuel Eto'o will not be a Liverpool player next year.
3. We are as far from winning the league with Rafa as we were under Ged.

They are the three serious issues I have become embroiled with. Which bits of this do you disagree with? Be honest, I'm not wrong am I.....

Didn't someone point out that since Rafa has taken charge our net spend is well up on the Scums?

What a ludicrously flawed argument that is! I agree, a lot of teams will get stronger next season. I think Villa, Sunderland, Newcastle etc. will be much tougher to beat, but that goes for us as well as anybody else. Clutching at straws my friend.

Managers that could do better for us DOMESTICALLY

Hiddink, O'Neill, Hughes to name three.

Ok. Hiddink has had success wherever he has been at club level, he gets the best out of teams (like he did with Korea) by encouraging them to express themselves- polar opposite to Rafa. Hughes and O'Neill, British managers, they understand English football. Just my opinion obviously, I could be wrong.

What the hell has that got to do with anything? They would be candidates to take over at any big club should the job become available. Even if they are candidates to take over from Slur, there would be a reason for that surely? I am not quite sure what you are implying...

No he hasn't. I'm sorry, but no he ****ing hasn't.

You seem to be suggesting we are at the same level as Villa and Blackburn.:whatever:

When the hell have I mentioned United? You are saying I am pro-scum for mentioning the three said managers which you have then suggested as possible slur replacements. You are ****ing paranoid mate.

Hughes has taken Blackburn to two FA Cup semi finals, O'Neill won the league cup (maybe twice) with Leicester. Very decent achievements for clubs of that size . Hardly not showing anything.

Oh for ****s sake. I was raising the question, I honestly can't remember the answer. I'm sure someone said that.

Apology reluctantly accepted. I still don't agree with you though.

Bloody hell lad you don't half talk some **** don't you

[Reds08]

I have to say, I am disapointed with the reception I have recieved on this board, never more so than today. I see people posting the same points as me, they don't take such heartless abuse. I see people agreeing with me, they still don't get it in the neck. I think I may lay low for a while, unless we do sign Eto'o and I'll come back with an aplogetic speech up there with the great orators of our time. I'm sad it has come to this, all I ever wanted was debate about the state of our once great football club, now left behind by others once not fit to lace our boots. Until then, remember, YNWA.