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    Shanks/Paisley never to be knighted

    Looks like we'll see a Sir David Beckham in our lifetime but never Sir Bob or Bill. Personally I think it would have been a nice and deserving gesture but as we all know these things have lost any value they once had.



    Prime Minister Gordon Brown has rejected a petition calling for the former Celtic manager Jock Stein to be awarded a posthumous knighthood.
    In a statement on the 10 Downing Street website in response to the petition, Brown said knighthoods cannot be awarded posthumously.

    The statement reads: "A knighthood is an honour only given during someone's lifetime."

    In 1967, Stein became the first British manager to win the European Cup.

    Stein also won 10 Scottish League titles, nine Scottish cups, and six Scottish League Cups.

    He collapsed and died in 1985, during a Scotland match with Wales, aged 62.

    In 1961, he led Dunfermline into Europe after winning the Scottish Cup.

    In March, two Labour MPs tabled a Commons motion calling for former Stein to be awarded a posthumous knighthood.

    In the statement, the prime minister said unlike bravery awards and medals, knighthoods have never been granted posthumously.

    The statement continues: "Formally, this is because recipients of honours receive their award when they attend an Investiture ceremony in person.

    "The fact that Mr Jock Stein CBE was not knighted, however, does not in any way detract from the contribution he made to this country.

    "His life and achievements have each been celebrated and remembered in many other ways.

    "But a knighthood is, however, not possible for someone, no matter how accomplished, who is no longer able to receive it."

    As a player Stein captained Celtic to Coronation Cup success when they beat Arsenal, Manchester United and Hibernian to become unofficial champions of Britain in 1953.

    Stein steered Scotland to the 1982 World Cup but suffered a fatal heart attack during a qualifying match in Wales on the way to Mexico '86.

    Seventeen MPs signed a motion by MP George Howarth, calling for former Liverpool manager Bob Paisley to be awarded a knighthood - 11 years after his death.

    Spurs fans have attempted a similar, but so far unsuccessful, attempt at winning a similar honour for former player and manager Bill Nicholson, who died in October 2004.

    #2
    Been that way forever, and as much as I would like to see BP get his, it's a right decision. The influx of "Who do we give it to and who don't we "would turn everything into a zoo. Giving it to a sports player/manager would open up all sorts of human rights groups claiming that if a footballer got a knighthood, certainly someone who helped children should. Then someone that helped a cat out of a tree... then.... then..... ( I sped this up, but you get the idea)

    We all know what these people have done. Not getting a sword on each shoulder doesn't make them lesser people.
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      #3
      It's all total bollocks anyway.
      We know who Bob was and what he did.

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        #4
        Originally posted by loco_law View Post
        Been that way forever, and as much as I would like to see BP get his, it's a right decision. The influx of "Who do we give it to and who don't we "would turn everything into a zoo. Giving it to a sports player/manager would open up all sorts of human rights groups claiming that if a footballer got a knighthood, certainly someone who helped children should. Then someone that helped a cat out of a tree... then.... then..... ( I sped this up, but you get the idea)

        We all know what these people have done. Not getting a sword on each shoulder doesn't make them lesser people.
        you're right but I guess what gets peoples hackles up is that ol' whiskey nose got one but better managers than him never will.....

        but if it were to happen it would definitely turn into a right royal mess

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          #5
          Revo posted the other day about Jock Stein not getting one because of a brawl his team was involved in, but it was proposed to give him on immediately after he won the European Cup. Busby and Fergiescum both got one immediately after winning the European Cup - but Bob, Joe Fagan, Clough or the Villa guy didn't. I don't know what to make of that, except to say it seems that you have to be linked to Man U to win an honour such as this.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Icon View Post
            It's all total bollocks anyway.
            We know who Bob was and what he did.


            Why the **** would beckham get one, doesnt do that much Charity work really i don't think... Just a celebrity footballer in my eyes.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Marc. View Post


              Why the **** would beckham get one, doesnt do that much Charity work really i don't think... Just a celebrity footballer in my eyes.
              He does a hell of a lot for charity

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                #8
                Knighthoods are a load of utter bollocks. And there's no need to give them posthumously IMO.
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                  #9
                  Bob Paisley is title enough.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Icon View Post
                    It's all total bollocks anyway.
                    We know who Bob was and what he did.


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