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[Charlie_B]

Don't agree at all.

VDS is still a good GK. You can point out mistakes, but Reina has them too. Reina has the youth factor butthat's it.
Neville is an excellent rightback, nothing between him and FInnan.
Agree about Agger and Vidic.
RF has mistakes here and there but has pace over Carra. Carra's better tho obv.
Pennant is a 6. And Ronaldo a 10 on current form. No messing about there.
Gerrard and Scholes? Scholes scores a lot of goals and they really miss him when he aint playing. Sentimentality would say that Gerrard's better obviously...
Mascher vs. Carrick? Mascher's a better holding player, but Carrick scores goals.
Kewell must be a 6 as we have no idea what to expect from him. Whilst Giggs is an 8 if not a 9.
Torres you can't rate yet, and even though Rooney doesn't score that many he still managed 14 last year and is a 9 at least.
Crouch 8 and Saha 7? Saha's a good player coming off injury so I'll give him the same BOD as Kewell

[El Jefecito]

I dissagree,they can only play 11 players at a time.Lets look at it man for man.Marks out of 10:

Reina-Van der sar 8-7

Pepe for me any day.

Finnan-Neville 8-7

Has there been a more consistant player than Finnan.I doubt Neville will ever be the same after almost a year out.

Carra-ferdinand 9-8

Nothing to choose between them in terms of ability,positional sense and tackling,but for passion and leadership qualities,Carra comes on top.

Agger-Vidic 8-8

I think they have both adapted really well to the premiership.Vidic is the stronger of the two with more pace,but Aggers awareness and ball playing qualities are better.


Riise-Evra 7-8

Evra is proberbly the better defender of the two but going forward and getting goals Riise wins hands down.Riise's not that bad a defender either.


Pennant-Ronaldo 7-9

At present not many players in world football better than Ronaldo in his position.After a poor start,i really think Pennant came on alot in the last few monthes of the season and think he will only get better.

Gerrard-Scholes 9-8


No one better than Gerrard in the middle of the park.Scholes's return last season made all the difference to them,But does he have the legs this time around?


Mascher-Carrick 8-7


I have to admit that when we signed Mascher,i did raise an eyebrow,but my god can this guy play.He is an excellent footballer full of energy and great positinal sense.Good passer but could be better.Thats the only thing Carrick proberbly has over him.


Kewell-Giggs 7-8

I think a fit Kewell can make a hugh difference to our wing play.He can also score goals aswell.I really hope he can remain injury free as i believe him alone can make a difference of maybe 10 points.Giggs had an outstanding season last year but the legs maybe going a little.


Torres-Rooney 8-8


This is one i found most difficult to rate.For all of Roonies aproach play and all action style,for me he just doesn't score enough goals to be truly world class.As for Torres,we have bought someone who has been outstanding in an average to poor team.He looks the part and from what i've seen of him,i am really happy.But time will tell only.

Crouch-Saha 8-7


Crouch imo,is an excellent player to have upfront.What he lacks in pace he more than makes up for in his link up play,holding the ball,skill and scores his fair share.Hardly ever injured and a great pro.Saha although fast and strong,doesn't play enough sometimes and little to eager in front of goal.Misses quite a few sitters as does Crouch to be fair.


Subs:

Carson-Kuszchak 6-6
Hyypia-sylvestre 8-6
Arbeloa-Brown 7-7
Aurellio-Heinze 6-7
Alonso-Hargreaves 8-7
Sissoko-Fletcher 8-6
Kuyt-Rossi 8-5

Veronin and lucas,Nani and Anderson are yet to play so i'm not commenting on them but as we havn't finished our summer buying it proberbly evens it out at this stage.

Good perspective. Kewell is better than the aged Giggs tho'. Xabi and Momo are better than any DM Manure have. Kuyt is an 8.5, is better than crouch (when played up front) and will be used more than crouch.

Riise is definitely a better defender than Evra. Evra nicks it on the attacking front.

AND finally, Rafa's tactics and our team ethic gives each of our players an additional 1 pt.

We're primed and ready

[El Jefecito]

Good perspective. Kewell is better than the aged Giggs tho'. Xabi and Momo are better than any DM Manure have. Kuyt is an 8.5, is better than crouch (when played up front) and will be used more than crouch.

Riise is definitely a better defender than Evra. Evra nicks it on the attacking front.

AND finally, Rafa's tactics and our team ethic gives each of our players an additional 1 pt.

We're primed and ready

Forgot to mention Agger is a long way ahead of Vidic who is only good in the air and error-prone.

[Red_Al_77]

We have a good enough squad to push Manure and Chelsea but let's see which wingers we buy before we get out the bunting. Next year I believe will be our year.

[kop-al-74]

Don't agree at all.

VDS is still a good GK. You can point out mistakes, but Reina has them too. Reina has the youth factor butthat's it.
Neville is an excellent rightback, nothing between him and FInnan.
Agree about Agger and Vidic.
RF has mistakes here and there but has pace over Carra. Carra's better tho obv.
Pennant is a 6. And Ronaldo a 10 on current form. No messing about there.
Gerrard and Scholes? Scholes scores a lot of goals and they really miss him when he aint playing. Sentimentality would say that Gerrard's better obviously...
Mascher vs. Carrick? Mascher's a better holding player, but Carrick scores goals.
Kewell must be a 6 as we have no idea what to expect from him. Whilst Giggs is an 8 if not a 9.
Torres you can't rate yet, and even though Rooney doesn't score that many he still managed 14 last year and is a 9 at least.
Crouch 8 and Saha 7? Saha's a good player coming off injury so I'll give him the same BOD as Kewell

At least you agree with one!:bird:

[El Jefecito]

At least you agree with one!:bird:

I don't Agger is light years ahead of Vidic. I watched a lot of Manure last year and while Vidic was dominant in the air he made so many mistakes that he could easily have been mistaken for Rio.

Vidic is NOT in the same league as Agger. FACT.

[reddragon]

Vidic is NOT in the same league as Agger. FACT.

sorry, but - OPINION

[El Jefecito]

sorry, but - OPINION

Nope, based on 15+ Manure games and ALL of LFC games that is a FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[peekay]

Every season I start believing that we can do the quadruple irrespective of the signings we make, or do not make. Thats all.It is a blind faith and not based on rational thought. But whenever we fall short,I become sad.I pull myself up at the end of the season,during the summer and when the season starts I start believing.

I dont care about rational logical arguments in this matter.I dont care if some of you have the power of clairvoyance. We are gonna win the league next season thats all.

[kop-al-74]

I really do feel confident about the coming season.I feel we are possibly in the same position as we were in the summer of 2002 where we finished 2nd and we really needed a couple of signings to make the final step.As we all know,we let Anelka go and bought in Diouf,Diao and Cheyrou.If those players turned out to be the players we thought we were getting and had a passion for the cause than maybe we could of taken that next step.

I believe Rafa understands finally the type of player we need to really challenge for the title and having decent financial backing,he will bring in the right players.

In Rafa i trust.He will take us there!

[reddragon]

Nope, based on 15+ Manure games and ALL of LFC games that is a FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!

nope still an opinion

[JPK]

decent post that, don't really agree with a rating system like that, but can see your aim. Said many times we've got one of the best squads going, we've just been missing the 2 or star players to make the first team that much better, and we've just got another one. A winger who could match Ronaldo and we'd be right up there

We are short 4top players altogether.A bonus would be a kid coming through.
No doubt Rafa will sign what he thinks will get us the title before the summer is over,so not to worry.I just think Torres alone is not going to solve all our problems.Great start though

[El Jefecito]

nope still an opinion

You a manc fan? 'Cos if you'd seen what I've seen you would be in no doubt (unless you were a manc fan).

BTW Sorry to call you a manc fan, but I just don't believe anyone other than a manc fan could even entertain the fact that Vidic is anywhere close to Agger.

[Morph]

We are short 4top players altogether.A bonus would be a kid coming through.
No doubt Rafa will sign what he thinks will get us the title before the summer is over,so not to worry.I just think Torres alone is not going to solve all our problems.Great start though

What 4 players do you reckon then?

Personally I think we only need a top class right winger, and maybe an LW as well but i still hold out hope for Kewell. I make that 1 maybe 2.

[reddragon]

You a manc fan? 'Cos if you'd seen what I've seen you would be in no doubt (unless you were a manc fan).

BTW Sorry to call you a manc fan, but I just don't believe anyone other than a manc fan could even entertain the fact that Vidic is anywhere close to Agger.

good job you added that pal - i'm a season ticket holder in the Kop







just trying to educate you on the difference between fact and opinion.