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    LIVERPOOL FC’s new American owners will have to bankroll a new rail link if they want to increase the capacity of the new Stanley Park stadium beyond 60,000, it has emerged.

    Joint owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are on the verge of submitting what are described as “stunning” plans for a new home for the Reds.

    Although the two partners have made it clear they want a ground able to accommodate between 70,000 and 80,000 crowds, they have accepted it is impossible in the immediate future to exceed the 60,000 already agreed by planners.

    Sources close to the stadium project say the owners know they will have to pay a large chunk of a scheme to enable thousands extra to reach the new stadium, and that leaves them with just one option – a new rail link. Their advisers are already studying the prospects of bringing back into passenger use a rail link closed around 30 years ago. It would open up the so-called Bootle line to passenger trains, giving a direct access to the new ground from Lime Street Station.

    The line is currently used by freight traffic from Liverpool docks, linking to the main rail network close to Edge Hill.

    Liverpool FC will not seek permission at this stage to build a bigger ground.

    But, as exclusively predicted in the Daily Post earlier this year, the new plans will enable the ground to be enlarged later on, building up the capacity.

    However, to win the go-ahead for a capacity beyond 60,000, the club will have to undertake a detailed transport impact plan to demonstrate how crowds of up to 20,000 more can reach the stadium without overwhelming the road and rail infrastructure.

    Revised stadium plans will be submitted to the city council on July 25.

    Last night, the prospect of re-opening the Bootle line to passenger traffic was welcomed by Cllr Mark Dowd, chairman of the region’s transport body, Merseytravel.

    He said: “If the needs of Liverpool FC is the catalyst that finally sees the re-opening of this line to passengers, I welcome it. For some years, I have wanted to see the use of this rail link to passengers.

    “It would provide a good service to people in the Aintree area and would revolutionise public transport in North Merseyside.

    “I travelled along the line by train not so long ago to check out its feasibility, and it would provide an exceptionally good public transport link. The line already takes trains carrying 1,000 tonnes of freight a time, so passenger trains would be no problem.”

    To win consent for an enlarged station, Liverpool FC’s owners would have to make a contribution, likely to run into several millions of pounds, towards the cost of a new station and other necessary works to re-establish a rail link. Sources close to the debate say, without a commitment to the rail link, the club’s owners would find it difficult, if not impossible, to extend the stadium.

    But the rewards for the club by expanding the ground would be so huge that the outlay in rail infrastructure would be modest compared to the rewards it would generate.

    #2
    anything that makes it easier to get into and out of the new stadium is a good thing
    Im only on here for silly season

    the rest of the time im too stressed

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      #3
      Originally posted by Henno View Post
      anything that makes it easier to get into and out of the new stadium is a good thing
      No turnstiles seems to help that.

      Oh, hang on a moment...
      .
      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



      May the Lord bless this post.

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        #4
        I really don't understand why the Liverpool council are not bending over backwards to help LFC build a larger capacity stadium, I think it is quite stupid actually.
        The amount of money LFC would be bringing to the city of Liverpool with an extra 20,000 seats per home game is massive, LFC must have brought in billions over the years in indriect revenue to the city. Yet Liverpool council seem to want to place every obstacle in their way. It is a no brainer.
        This would not happen in the like of Madrid and Barcelona who make fortunes out of their cities stadiums.
        Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
        'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

        "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

        * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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          #5
          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
          No turnstiles seems to help that.

          Oh, hang on a moment...
          In Rafa I Trust

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            #6
            Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
            I really don't understand why the Liverpool council are not bending over backwards to help LFC build a larger capacity stadium, I think it is quite stupid actually.
            The amount of money LFC would be bringing to the city of Liverpool with an extra 20,000 seats per home game is massive, LFC must have brought in billions over the years in indriect revenue to the city. Yet Liverpool council seem to want to place every obstacle in their way. It is a no brainer.
            This would not happen in the like of Madrid and Barcelona who make fortunes out of their cities stadiums.
            This has long been a problem with clubs who insist on remaining in historic locations rather than move to the outskirts where massive movement of people is easier.

            Dortmund had the same problems when their capacity increases led to major debate about rail and road links into the city. The result was massive redevelopment by the city council, who own the ground and a major reason why Dortmund have no money and have to sell players to suvive with crowds of over 80 000
            Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
            Those that killed her, were following the law.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
              No turnstiles seems to help that.

              Oh, hang on a moment...

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                #8
                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                No turnstiles seems to help that.

                Oh, hang on a moment...


                well ... we dont like the whole "ticket" thing appenently
                Im only on here for silly season

                the rest of the time im too stressed

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                  I really don't understand why the Liverpool council are not bending over backwards to help LFC build a larger capacity stadium, I think it is quite stupid actually.
                  The amount of money LFC would be bringing to the city of Liverpool with an extra 20,000 seats per home game is massive, LFC must have brought in billions over the years in indriect revenue to the city. Yet Liverpool council seem to want to place every obstacle in their way. It is a no brainer.
                  This would not happen in the like of Madrid and Barcelona who make fortunes out of their cities stadiums.
                  All very good points mate but I have to say I think it's a good idea, as you know, to placate the planners and agree to do doing this as the article says we will win in the end.
                  However it's at least 10years away so lets see what happens.

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                    #10
                    i agree with everyone on this. if it has to be done, it has to be done. at least it will be good for us in the end but i also agree that the council should get their heads out of their arses and stop causing delays to beneficial plans/projects.
                    in january we were doomed.

                    in august we will rise from the ashes of ****e and march on again

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by redblood View Post
                      All very good points mate but I have to say I think it's a good idea, as you know, to placate the planners and agree to do doing this as the article says we will win in the end.
                      However it's at least 10years away so lets see what happens.
                      Not sure about that timeframe. If the club submits for approval of extention during the construction and gets to work on developing the rail link during the same time, we may have a shorter wait than that. Although I guess this would depend on the council pulling their heads out of their arses so I guess there's **** all chance of that then:whatever:
                      It's easy to distract fat people. It's a piece of cake.

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                        #12
                        In my opinion there's nothing wrong with the council suggesting G+H come up with private sector investment for the rail link in order to get council approval for the extra capacity . It may even work out as an income generator for the club if run correctly.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by redblood View Post
                          All very good points mate but I have to say I think it's a good idea, as you know, to placate the planners and agree to do doing this as the article says we will win in the end.
                          However it's at least 10years away so lets see what happens.
                          I know what your saying mate.
                          My point was not about the council making us build a rail line, but more, why dont the council dig a bit deeper to help us build it, as the city of Liverpool will benefit from the extra revenue. I agree that a rail line is needed.
                          Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                          'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                          "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                          * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                            I know what your saying mate.
                            My point was not about the council making us build a rail line, but more, why dont the council dig a bit deeper to help us build it, as the city of Liverpool will benefit from the extra revenue. I agree that a rail line is needed.
                            Who know's, there may be some transport infrastructure grants available...
                            I'm sure we are still in the negotiating stage where the council is trying to get as much from the private sector as possible. Blame Thatcher
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                              #15
                              From what i've heard there isn't a great deal needed to get the rail line up and running, mainly the matter of building a station and that's about it, we'd recoup our money after about two seasons at the higher capacity - no brainer to me
                              Thomas Hicks Senior

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