Lucas cleared

[Guest]

I'm inclined to agree with you on the general point of Ged not being as bad as many make out, he initially did a very good job in my opinion. I do think though that he totally mishandled some of the young players he bought in with Biscan being a prime example of this. I think he was lucky with Gerrard in that he was versatile enough to be eased in at full back and play in a number of positions. Gerrard also had a relationship with Owen who was already a first team regular which made it easier for him to make an impact.



The problem for Biscan under Houllier was that he rarely got a run in the first team - let alone one in CM. It is hard to establish yourself when you don't feel you have a mangers full support. Obviously in the end Biscan wasn't good enough to force his way into the team but I can't help feeling that he had the potential to do more for us than he did.

The problem is it is easy to pontificate on the situation from the outside as I have done above, it may simply be that Biscan had a limited level of talent and that he reached his full potential at a very young age.

Talent alone doesn't suffice when you come at a club like ours. Young players often find themselves under increasing strain from the simple fact that it's very competitive and sacrifices need to be made to reach and stay at the top. That's why the key in youth development is to reach out for the largest pool of potential talent available, in order to get an acceptable percentage of players who will make it.

[andyinswinton]

Torres, Babel and Lucus wasn't given international clearence to play in this 'official' cup. Altho they will play on Friday.

Whats the situation with Leto?

[stevie_gerrard_8]

Whats the situation with Leto?

I have no idea but for someone who is supposed to be the second biggest talent behind Leo Messi, i find it worrying that he couldn't get into the Argentina Under 20's squad

[The Glove]

I thought he played in that World Cup?

[dww]

Is he not 21?

[stevie_gerrard_8]

Is he not 21?

D.O.B. - August 30, 1986 - 20 Years old

[Nate7]

I have no idea but for someone who is supposed to be the second biggest talent behind Leo Messi, i find it worrying that he couldn't get into the Argentina Under 20's squad

i thought it was because he was carrying an injury?

[PLY]

I have no idea but for someone who is supposed to be the second biggest talent behind Leo Messi, i find it worrying that he couldn't get into the Argentina Under 20's squad

Other than somebody mucking about on Wikipedia after we'd signed him who has ever made that claim about him?

He's a decent player with a sweet left foot , who playing wise is more of a Solari than anything else. If he fulfils his potential he'll be a good player not a great one

[stevie_gerrard_8]

Other than somebody mucking about on Wikipedia after we'd signed him who has ever made that claim about him?

He's a decent player with a sweet left foot , who playing wise is more of a Solari than anything else. If he fulfils his potential he'll be a good player not a great one

Someone on another site quoted it from a magazine. Forgot the name of the magazine but the poster was reliable.

[Los Rojos]

GH ruined poor Igor. There's no doubt that under a better manager gor would've become a much better player than he is today.

True unfortunately. I think Igor suffered more than most from Houllier's 'square peg in round hole' fascination.

It took Rafa 5 minutes to work out that Igor was a CM not a full back or Centre Half. The damage had been done by then though.

[thekop]

True unfortunately. I think Igor suffered more than most from Houllier's 'square peg in round hole' fascination.

It took Rafa 5 minutes to work out that Igor was a CM not a full back or Centre Half. The damage had been done by then though.

I have to say i aree with you bud

[rushscored4]

True unfortunately. I think Igor suffered more than most from Houllier's 'square peg in round hole' fascination.

It took Rafa 5 minutes to work out that Igor was a CM not a full back or Centre Half. The damage had been done by then though.

It took me less than 5 minutes to work out he wasn't a CM or a full back or a centre half...

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

GH ruined poor Igor. There's no doubt that under a better manager gor would've become a much better player than he is today.

Do you reckon?

Remember Igor's performance at centre half away to Sunderland December 2002? Compare that to his form under Rafa. Night and Day. Unreal.

[Diego]

I have no idea but for someone who is supposed to be the second biggest talent behind Leo Messi, i find it worrying that he couldn't get into the Argentina Under 20's squad

thats bollocks mate, he isn't even concidered to be the biggest talent in argentina...

[stevie_gerrard_8]

thats bollocks mate, he isn't even concidered to be the biggest talent in argentina...

I agree but I'm just passing on what I have heard mate