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    Interesting take on Torres and Babel

    From The Sunday Times
    August 12, 2007
    Rafa off and running
    Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 2
    Duncan Castles at Villa Park

    NEW OWNERS, new money, new squad – and a new style of starting a Premier League campaign for Rafa Benitez’s Liverpool. Extensively, and expensively, remodelled to challenge for the title, his team began their assault on it with a win. That it came at Villa Park against a Martin O’Neill team that tends not to yield easily at home might not be insignificant...

    ...When Fernando Torres decided that 2007 was to be his last year at Atletico Madrid he instructed his agent to arrange a transfer to England, with Manchester United his preferred destination.

    Their interest palled, however, perhaps wary of an average of 14 League goals a campaign over the Spaniard’s last three and unltimately happier to gamble on Carlos Tevez’s more earthy style of forward play. Ryan Babel had been observed by Arsenal for years to the conclusion that the Dutchman was good, but not quite good enough. A fashioner of goals rather than a finisher of them, Babel now has an £11.5million price tag to justify and the Premier League’s strongest scouting department to prove wrong.
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    Sorry, but what a load of ****e. Fergie has said he has been after Torres for the last 3 sesons and Arsenal could not afford Babel right now so it is typical lazy journalism from a Murdoch 'rag'.
    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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      #3
      What a pile of ****.........ffs thats just plain bull**** and any remotely intelligent football fan would know thats bollocks. Babel on first impressions could be a ****ing superstar and Torres will be a lfc legend without any question. **** the press.
      RAFA

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        #4
        That my fellow supporters,is terrible journalism.His editor should be ashamed of him.
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        'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'

        Bill Shankly.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Darth Marty View Post
          What a pile of ****.........ffs thats just plain bull**** and any remotely intelligent football fan would know thats bollocks. Babel on first impressions could be a ****ing superstar and Torres will be a lfc legend without any question. **** the press.


          torres was class today. fair enuf he didnt get a goal but he never stopped trying to get one. he has the confidence to shoot left foot or right and linked up well with kuyt.

          babel looked good whan he came on and again is not afraid to shoot.
          i also read that villa had 51% possession, i mean what ta **** !!!!
          "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

          "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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            #6
            The suggestion from this prize-piece-of-****e is that we can only sign cast-offs that the other clubs didn't want and that our scouting departments is piggybacking those of our more 'illustrious' competitors - the lack of any quotes is not surprising.

            Fair enough though. If they feel the need to put us down when we appear to be on the way up, bring it on because it means we can go about our business quietly and efficiently.

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              #7
              Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Post


              torres was class today. fair enuf he didnt get a goal but he never stopped trying to get one. he has the confidence to shoot left foot or right and linked up well with kuyt.

              babel looked good whan he came on and again is not afraid to shoot.
              i also read that villa had 51% possession, i mean what ta **** !!!!

              I'd like to see in whose half the majority of the possesion was.
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              'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'

              Bill Shankly.

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                #8
                Originally posted by kop-al-74 View Post
                I'd like to see in whose half the majority of the possesion was.
                id say a lot closer to 60-40 in our favour
                "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

                "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Post


                  torres was class today. fair enuf he didnt get a goal but he never stopped trying to get one. he has the confidence to shoot left foot or right and linked up well with kuyt.

                  babel looked good whan he came on and again is not afraid to shoot.
                  i also read that villa had 51% possession, i mean what ta **** !!!!
                  The stats on TV showed Villa had 52% possession actually, but who cares, you have to do something with the ball, Villa rarely threatened and got lucky with the pen. Torres looked class at times and Babel showed he has talent.
                  * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                    The stats on TV showed Villa had 52% possession actually, but who cares, you have to do something with the ball, Villa rarely threatened and got lucky with the pen. Torres looked class at times and Babel showed he has talent.
                    The extra 12% in Villa's favour was when the keeper was picking the ball out of the net.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tsb View Post
                      The extra 12% in Villa's favour was when the keeper was picking the ball out of the net.
                      maybe i can be a little biased at times
                      "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

                      "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by kop-al-74 View Post
                        That my fellow supporters,is terrible journalism.His editor should be ashamed of him.
                        The editor will probably be delighted actually, as he's following the paper's bias.

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                          #13
                          Was furious when I read that this morning. Loved the fact that there were no quotes to back up the statement.
                          Javier Mascherano: 'I want to be settled and kill myself on the pitch so the team wins lots of games'

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by michelmas View Post
                            From The Sunday Times
                            August 12, 2007
                            Rafa off and running
                            Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 2
                            Duncan Castles at Villa Park

                            NEW OWNERS, new money, new squad – and a new style of starting a Premier League campaign for Rafa Benitez’s Liverpool. Extensively, and expensively, remodelled to challenge for the title, his team began their assault on it with a win. That it came at Villa Park against a Martin O’Neill team that tends not to yield easily at home might not be insignificant...

                            ...When Fernando Torres decided that 2007 was to be his last year at Atletico Madrid he instructed his agent to arrange a transfer to England, with Manchester United his preferred destination.

                            Their interest palled, however, perhaps wary of an average of 14 League goals a campaign over the Spaniard’s last three and unltimately happier to gamble on Carlos Tevez’s more earthy style of forward play. Ryan Babel had been observed by Arsenal for years to the conclusion that the Dutchman was good, but not quite good enough. A fashioner of goals rather than a finisher of them, Babel now has an £11.5million price tag to justify and the Premier League’s strongest scouting department to prove wrong.
                            To be fair I had heard that about Babel and Arsenal during the U21 tournament.

                            I liked what I saw of him yesterday though, although he did look less than assured when given a chance in front of goal. I think he will prove to be a very good signing for us, but it is fair to say that he has a lot to prove.
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                              #15
                              so this assumes that Man U and arsenal are always right about a player?

                              which i hazzard a guess they are not !!!

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