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Rafa's looking a bit petulent here. Let it go Rafa. He should forget the incident and should point out the solution. A 10 minute sin bin for ANY dissent or challenge to the ref's decision or for simulation.
No fuss, no drama. Within 1 season you'd drastically reduce the number of incidents.
I wouldn't call it petulance.
More kinda drawing attention to the antics of others teams and how they get away with ****.
Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
* After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs
A sin bin wouldn't work in football. To get the exact time then game would have to be stopped and that would slow down the game to much.
Just believe and you never know what will happen.
According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.
A sin bin wouldn't work in football. To get the exact time then game would have to be stopped and that would slow down the game to much.
What are you on about "exact time"? "game stopped".
It's no different from a yellow card, except they have to leave the field for 10 minutes minimum. THey can come back on at the next break in play after 10 minutes. What's difficult about that?
Originally posted by Gordon Brown
(1995)
"A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"
He needs to be careful not to look hypocritical because Carragher is certainly no angel in the respect of hounding referees. He obviously doesn't do it to the extent of the Chelsea players but still......
The thing is when Carra has a go at the ref, he usually have a point where as Lampard& CO does it every time they get a desision against them, no matter how trivial. Carra did it once and got yellow carded straight away. Several Chelski players did it on several different occations and I think just one got a yellow. (Terry ?).
Its so easy to get rid of the problem. Just go out and say once and for all that you will get a yellow card straight away. In the next round be ridicoulously picky and give everyone who opens their mouth a card. Problem solved
But it's endemic in the game. He knows that, there's no point in banging on about the Chelsea match.
Jose does it all the time mate. Anything you say to make it clearer in the mind of officials and referees about what is happening at other clubs, especially if it is negative and may distract the other teams slightly is welcome IMO. Rafa has to adopt this approach, its almost part and parcel of the game in England, well for successfull League winning teams anyway.
Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
* After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs
I think it is a little rich for Rafa to be saying this even if I do agree that some teams seem able to do it and get away with it.
However, we may be one such side. I saw Arbeloa doing the old card waving after a bad foul on him - something that isn't permitted anymore but he wasn't pulled up for it. The player who did the foul - Essien I think - got the booking for it. Certainly some of our foreign lads look to the ref when they get fouled as if to say "go on, book him then".
But it's endemic in the game. He knows that, there's no point in banging on about the Chelsea match.
Dont want to repeat myself too often but where does Rafa mention the Chelsea match, he doesn't, he's too clever for that. It may be implied, he was probably even asked a question about that match to start off this response but he never mentions Chelsea's players.
He doesnt have too because everyone already knows they do it constantly
Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24
Rafa's looking a bit petulent here. Let it go Rafa. He should forget the incident and should point out the solution. A 10 minute sin bin for ANY dissent or challenge to the ref's decision or for simulation.
No fuss, no drama. Within 1 season you'd drastically reduce the number of incidents.
Yeah in the last 3,4 days there have been about 5 Rafa stories, he needs to calm down a little bit
"These stories have as much relation to the truth as an egg to a chestnut." - Racing Santander President Francisco Pernia
1. noone likes to see refs under pressure. carra IS guilty of approaching refs but only usually when the ref has made a shocker- what bothered me about that game was pennant (who i quite like and would like to see come good) waving his arms, screaming in the refs face, telling him to **** off when he had just been booked- imo he was VERY lucky not to get a 2nd yellow
in other words, if we're going to moan, make sure your own shop is in order- hypocrites rarely get support
2. we all complain about the mancs and chavs surrounding the ref. arsenal used to do it to a lesser extent as well. but then for the past 10 years they are the only clubs to have won the league so it obviously works on some level. i wouldn't want to win the league like that, but if it was a choice between winning it and not....
"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques"
Yeah in the last 3,4 days there have been about 5 Rafa stories, he needs to calm down a little bit
but he's only done like 2 interviews since, his post match interview and then his pre-game interview for the sunderland match it's the media rehashing points he's already made
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