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    #16
    A half fit player should be screaming to play for his country. Gerrard is no different, fcuk Mc Clown and the F.A but playing for your country, there is no greater honour.
    Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
    Those that killed her, were following the law.

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      #17
      Was reading the Times on line I think and they were of the opinion that it's unlikely that Gerrard would play unless he's fit, ie England wouldn't go down the route of giving him pain-killing injections to play like we did for the Chelsea game. That's reassuring at least.

      I think all the responsibility here is on SG's shoulders. If he is not fit to play it is incumbent on him to say so. We might all bash McClaren here, but I am pretty sure the guy wouldn't force Stevie to play if he isn't fit.
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        #18
        Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
        Was reading the Times on line I think and they were of the opinion that it's unlikely that Gerrard would play unless he's fit, ie England wouldn't go down the route of giving him pain-killing injections to play like we did for the Chelsea game. That's reassuring at least.
        After the problems the FA had with the whole Michael Owen/Newcastle compensation thing they are unlikely to take any risks

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          #19
          I think we should cut him some slack here, he has previously pulled himself out of a major championship in order to get the correct treatment and I am sure if he has any doubts he will do the same again.

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            #20
            Originally posted by kev776 View Post
            A half fit player should be screaming to play for his country. Gerrard is no different, fcuk Mc Clown and the F.A but playing for your country, there is no greater honour.
            I would think winning the premiership in front of the Kop would trump it to be fair.

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              #21
              Originally posted by nobbylad View Post
              I would think winning the premiership in front of the Kop would trump it to be fair.
              Can we agree to disagree
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              Those that killed her, were following the law.

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                #22
                Originally posted by kev776 View Post
                Can we agree to disagree
                Ok, what about winning the World Cup for your country?
                Surely that is a higher honour than just playing for your country?
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                  Ok, what about winning the World Cup for your country?
                  Surely that is a higher honour than just playing for your country?
                  Honours are usually bestowed upon people - winning Cups, trophies etc have to be earned....if you know what I mean.

                  I don't think you can compare honours such as playing for your country and winning things. As a player, being selected to play for you country is about as high an honour as you can get, IMO.

                  Winning the Prem in front of the Kop wouldn't really be an 'honour' - IMO. It would be a ****ing orgasmic achievement.

                  Semantics, really, I suppose.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                    I don't think you can compare honours such as playing for your country and winning things. .
                    I disagree.
                    Just when I discovered the meaning of life, they changed it

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                      #25
                      Players aren't "honoured with" a Premiership title. It has to be earned and won.

                      While an England call-up obviously still has to be earned, the honour is bestowed upon a player by someone else - much like an MBE or a knighthood. I think the two things (winning things and being honoured) are different.
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                        #26
                        I see where you're coming from Shags. I think all sides could agree that captaining your country would be a greater honour
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                          Players aren't "honoured with" a Premiership title. It has to be earned and won.

                          While an England call-up obviously still has to be earned, the honour is bestowed upon a player by someone else - much like an MBE or a knighthood. I think the two things (winning things and being honoured) are different.


                          Can we agree to disagree
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                            #28
                            Mc Clown on SSN just now said he expects SG to be fit for saturday. Journo didn't ask whether this would be with a jab.

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                              #29
                              Ignore that just re-read what you posted.
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Kaip View Post
                                Can we agree to disagree


                                Well, there's no disagreeing to be had

                                It IS different, as I pointed out. The sort of honours Kev was talking about, I assume, is an honour in its truest sense - something that is bestowed upon somebody by someone else - like an England cap, an MBE or a Knighthood.

                                Winning the Premiership in front of the Kop, or a World Cup, or whatever, isn't an honour in its true sense.

                                I'd much, much rather win the league for the Reds in front of the Kop than play for my country though.
                                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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