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    #1

    Who's had the hardest start?

    Here's my take on it. Very straight forward system.

    5 points for any game against a top 4 side - draw is very acceptable
    4 points for an away game against a decent side - draw is acceptable,
    3 points for an away game against other sides - draw is disappointing
    2 points for a home game against a reasonable side - draw is very disappointing
    1 point for a home game against a ****e side - draw is outrageous.

    My take on the fixtures :

    Man Utd 1 - 0 Tottenham 2
    Everton 0 - 1 Man Utd 4
    Portsmouth 0 - 0 Liverpool 3
    Tottenham 1 - 3 Arsenal 4
    Chelsea 0 - 0 Blackburn 2
    Arsenal 3 - 1 Portsmouth 1
    Aston Villa 2 - 0 Chelsea 4
    Liverpool 6 - 0 Derby 1
    Man Utd 1 - 0 Sunderland 1
    Arsenal 1-0 Man City 2
    Chelsea 1-0 Portsmouth 1
    Sunderland 0-2 Liverpool 3
    Liverpool 1 - 1 Chelsea 5
    Man City 1-0 Man Utd 3
    Portsmouth 1-1 Man Utd 3
    Reading 1-2 Chelsea 3
    Arsenal 2-1 Fulham 1
    Chelsea 3-2 Birmingham 1
    Man Utd 0-0 Reading 2
    Aston Villa 1-2 Liverpool 4
    Blackburn 1-1 Arsenal 4

    So who's had the toughest start? Liverpool by a reasonable distance - mainly because Man U and Arsenal have had some piss easy home games.

    Man Utd 15 2.50
    Liverpool 16 3.20
    Arsenal 12 2.40
    Chelsea 16 2.67

    What does this mean? Well, that we've got some easier games coming so should pick up points while the others should/will drop them
    Quote of the year :

    "With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"

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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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      #3
      Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
      Cue obvious joke about data presentation format.
      Don't get it
      Quote of the year :

      "With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"

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        #4
        disco, I'm no mathemagician like yourself, but am I correct in assuming that under your system, an away game at Derby is worth 3 points yet you give a home game against Pompey 1 point and a home game against Spurs is 2 points?

        Seems a bit of a flawed system to me
        Originally posted by Gordon Brown
        (1995)
        "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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          #5
          Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
          disco, I'm no mathemagician like yourself, but am I correct in assuming that under your system, an away game at Derby is worth 3 points yet you give a home game against Pompey 1 point and a home game against Spurs is 2 points?

          Seems a bit of a flawed system to me
          Yes. Arguably away game to Derby should be a 2, may be even a 1!, but I was trying to keep things simple.

          Main thing is being consistent between the 4 teams, and no-one's played Derby yet.

          Pompey at home could be a 2, I agree.
          Quote of the year :

          "With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"

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            #6
            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
            Cue obvious joke about data presentation format.


            Was expecting some serious graphs
            Forbes knows best... FACT

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              #7
              SCUM

              Spurs(h)
              Reading (h)
              Makams (h)
              Pompey (a)
              Citeh(a)
              Everton(a)

              Chavs

              Pompey(h)
              Blackburn(h)
              Birmingham (h)
              Liverpool (a)
              Villa (a)
              Reading (a)

              Arse

              Pompey(h)
              Citeh(h)
              Fulham (h)
              Spurs (a)
              Blackburn (a)

              LFC

              Chavs (h)
              Derby(h)
              Pompey(a)
              Villa(a)
              Makams (a)

              I've split them up into home games followed by away games.

              Home games: SCUM- 2 easy, 1 tricky; Chavs-2 tricky and 1 easy; Arse-1 tricky 2 easy; LFC-1 hard, 1 piss

              Away games: SCUM- 2 tricky, 1 easy; Chavs-1 hard, 1 tricky, 1 easy; Arse- 2 tricky; LFC 2 tricky, 1 easy

              Based on that SCUM and the Arse have had the easiest home fixtures thus far, LFC and Chavs having the toughest.
              Arse and Chavs have had the hardest away games.

              Overll that would mean the Chavs have had the toughest start so far mainly because they've played at Anfield.
              Originally posted by Gordon Brown
              (1995)
              "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                #8
                Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                SCUM

                Spurs(h)
                Reading (h)
                Makams (h)
                Pompey (a)
                Citeh(a)
                Everton(a)

                Chavs

                Pompey(h)
                Blackburn(h)
                Birmingham (h)
                Liverpool (a)
                Villa (a)
                Reading (a)

                Arse

                Pompey(h)
                Citeh(h)
                Fulham (h)
                Spurs (a)
                Blackburn (a)

                LFC

                Chavs (h)
                Derby(h)
                Pompey(a)
                Villa(a)
                Makams (a)

                I've split them up into home games followed by away games.

                Home games: SCUM- 2 easy, 1 tricky; Chavs-2 tricky and 1 easy; Arse-1 tricky 2 easy; LFC-1 hard, 1 piss

                Away games: SCUM- 2 tricky, 1 easy; Chavs-1 hard, 1 tricky, 1 easy; Arse- 2 tricky; LFC 2 tricky, 1 easy

                Based on that SCUM and the Arse have had the easiest home fixtures thus far, LFC and Chavs having the toughest.
                Arse and Chavs have had the hardest away games.

                Overll that would mean the Chavs have had the toughest start so far mainly because they've played at Anfield.
                Well, you've basically repeated my analysis with words rather than numbers, but I don't agree with your analysis.

                Our away games have been just as tricky as Arsenal and Man U. I don't really differentiate between home and away against a top 4 side - they're all very hard games.

                So we've had the toughest start, mainly because we've had more away games (as a percentage) and played a top-4 side.
                Quote of the year :

                "With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by disco View Post
                  Well, you've basically repeated my analysis with words rather than numbers, but I don't agree with your analysis.

                  Our away games have been just as tricky as Arsenal and Man U. I don't really differentiate between home and away against a top 4 side - they're all very hard games.

                  So we've had the toughest start, mainly because we've had more away games (as a percentage) and played a top-4 side.
                  Hang on, I didn't say that we have had easier away games than the SCUM.

                  We've had easier away games than the Chavs because they've had to play at Anfield and we've had easier away games than the Arse because they've had 2 tricky away games (one a north london derby) and no easy away games. We've had 2 tricky away games and a piss easy one against the Makams.

                  I've pointed out where your analysis is flawed in my opinion.

                  Away at Derby/Sunderland is not 3 times as hard as home against Pompey
                  Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                  (1995)
                  "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                    #10
                    It's supposed be a straight forward approach

                    I agree it's flawed, but pointing out the fallacies is spurious - it doesn't change the conclusion because we haven't played Derby away

                    By all means change the numbers if you want to
                    Quote of the year :

                    "With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by disco View Post
                      It's supposed be a straight forward approach

                      I agree it's flawed, but pointing out the fallacies is spurious - it doesn't change the conclusion because we haven't played Derby away

                      By all means change the numbers if you want to
                      We've played the makams away and I think that match is not 3 times as hard as Pompey at home

                      Adding numbers tries to make something which is subjective into an objective measurement but at the same time introduces bias.

                      I genuinely feel that the Chavs have had a harder start than us.
                      Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                      (1995)
                      "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                        #12
                        Where's the 'headbutting a wall' smilie when you need it?

                        Anyone less nit-picking want to have a go?
                        Quote of the year :

                        "With monkey me, dogface dishwasher bitch and chimp the ****ing champ you. We are turning into a raving party here arent we"

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by disco View Post
                          Where's the 'headbutting a wall' smilie when you need it?

                          Anyone less nit-picking want to have a go?


                          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                          (1995)
                          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                            #14
                            Pompey hard the hardest start. They have played the us, Arse, Chavs and the Scum

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                              Pompey hard the hardest start. They have played the us, Arse, Chavs and the Scum
                              Good point although the US are crap.
                              .
                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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