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    #16
    rafa would take a draw away to porto and so will definitely play dirk for his busy all action style. he will play his strongest defensive line up and mascherano for the same reason

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      #17
      Originally posted by kurtangle01 View Post
      Agreed but with Babel on the right and Pennant on the left.
      Swapping alot during the match me thinks
      Contrary to popular belief, I have huge genitals.

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        #18
        Originally posted by zinedine cheyrou View Post
        rafa would take a draw away to porto and so will definitely play dirk for his busy all action style. he will play his strongest defensive line up and mascherano for the same reason

        I think Rafa wil be looking to win this game comfortably. We always keep it tight in Europe anyway so I dont think we'll be any extra defensive. I expect full points tomorrow.
        Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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          #19
          Originally posted by The Glove View Post
          I think Rafa wil be looking to win this game comfortably. We always keep it tight in Europe anyway so I dont think we'll be any extra defensive. I expect full points tomorrow.
          i think we should be able to beat porto but if he is talking about 12 points from 18 from the group then rafa just might see a draw here being enough. Think he would not want to lose the first game and lose ground straight away.

          hope im wrong as i think if we go for it we should win comfortably...but my mind goes back to psv away last year where if we had gone for it we could have easily taken the three points

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            #20
            Personally I think Rafa is looking to blitz the qualifying, get it out the way. 4 wins from 4 then a draw and a loss should see us top the group.
            Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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              #21
              Originally posted by The Glove View Post
              Personally I think Rafa is looking to blitz the qualifying, get it out the way. 4 wins from 4 then a draw and a loss should see us top the group.
              Yup, last season we did pretty much the same. How many points did we pick up then?

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                #22
                What's up with Harry Kewell now? What a joke.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                  Yup, last season we did pretty much the same. How many points did we pick up then?
                  4 wins, 1 draw and a loss.
                  Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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                    #24
                    Can see us winning it, but if we don't I am really dreading people coming on here ready to commit sucide.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by desertscouser View Post
                      What's up with Harry Kewell now? What a joke.
                      He is fit but not ready to play yet.
                      Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                      According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                        #26
                        He may have been one of the hottest properties in Europe since breaking into his home-town team six years ago at the tender age of 17, but the Champions League is still new territory for Fernando Torres.

                        Liverpool's £26.5million striker has never featured in UEFA's showcase because his beloved Atletico Madrid failed to qualify in the six years he was there. He has arrived at Anfield to make up for lost time.



                        Spain game: Torres (second left) enjoys himself but an apprehensive Alonso (far right) holds off before hobbling out of training on Monday

                        Rafa Benitez left the Spain international out of the goalless draw at Portsmouth on Sunday but with Liverpool facing their toughest group phase task against FC Porto on Tuesday night, the manager is unlikely to tinker with his most potent strike-force and Torres is certain to start alongside Dutchman Dirk Kuyt.

                        Last season's defeated Champions League finalists have an abundance of European and world experience now, but Benitez will have no hesitation in turning to Torres as Liverpool look to end Porto's impressive home record of nine games undefeated against all the Premiership's top four.

                        Benitez said: 'The chance to show his talents in the Champions League was one of the reasons why Torres decided to come to a top side. He wanted to play in Europe at the highest level.

                        'Mentally, he is ready for this challenge. When you can play as well as he has done in the Premier League then you can play in Europe, no problems.

                        'He is only young, 23, but his problem was that he was in the Atletico Madrid team from the age of 17 and was waiting, waiting for them to get into the Champions League. Now he has the opportunity to show what he can do at this level.'

                        With two Champions League Finals to his name, Benitez is expected to deliver an extended European season for Liverpool's expectant supporters, who also want a sustained Premiership challenge.

                        Benitez did not disappoint them when he said: 'You must try to win all the trophies and then analyse the situation at the end of the season.

                        'In the first season we tried to get into the top four, won the Champions League and got to the Carling Cup Final with a squad full of lads.

                        'I still have a photo in my office of the team that took us to Cardiff and there were seven players from the reserves. You need to use your squad if you want to compete in four competitions but people can criticise you and there will be times you do make a mistake.

                        'The winning mentality should be to win every single game you play, not to think you have proved something by winning a title in the past. Our priority is the Premier League but that doesn't mean we don't want to win every other trophy we enter.

                        'We have the squad now to compete for both the Premier League and Champions League but we will only discover how strong it is during the season.'

                        Striker Kuyt believes Liverpool can win on more than one front. He said: 'If you want to win trophies you need four really good strikers. Good players play better with good players.

                        'We know we have a good enough squad to win the Champions League and the Premier League, although it's too early to focus on that.'

                        Despite losing Anderson to Manchester United and Pepe to Real Madrid, Porto coach Jesualdo Ferreira has started the season with four league wins out of four.

                        Having kept playmaker Ricardo Quaresma out of the clutches of Madrid, the former European champions represent a stern test for Liverpool, who travelled without Momo Sissoko and John Arne Riise.

                        Perhaps it was with this game in mind that the Liverpool manager was prepared to leave out Steven Gerrard at Portsmouth.

                        At least Gerrard will be fresh when he takes over the central midfield role from Xabi Alonso, who hobbled off at the start of training on Monday.

                        But Benitez still found himself defending his rotation policy last night, insisting it was necessary to cope with the demands of the season.

                        He said: 'I've been speaking to the players and some were really tired after travelling all over the world. You could lose a player for two months because he is tired and that would be worse than one game.

                        'Three games in a week is always difficult, so you have to use different players. But when all the players know the job they have to do, it is easier to change. Although, saying that, when you lose it seems the best players are always on the bench.

                        'I know there is more expectation on me because the squad is better. We have spent more money with the new owners this season, but we also clawed a lot back by selling.

                        'I heard someone say we were guaranteed to finish in the top four this season, but how can you say that? Others are improving and we must keep improving by working hard. We can't rest on our laurels. Now we have better players and when I change them around the difference is not so big.'

                        HOW THEY LINE UP
                        FC PORTO (4-3-3): Nuno; Bosingwa, Alves, Paulo, Fuchile; Assuncao, Lucho Gonzalez, Meireler; Fasias, Lisandro, Quaresma.
                        LIVERPOOL (4-4-2): Reina; Finnan, Carragher, Agger, Arbeloa; Benayoun, Gerrard, Mascherano, Babel; Kuyt, Torres.
                        Referee: Lubos Michel (Slovakia)
                        TV: Live ITV1 (7.45 kick-off)
                        Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                          #27
                          tell you what, torres will absolutely rip the portugese to shreds, it wont surprise me if he ends up with a hat trick tomorrow. seriously.
                          RAFA

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                            #28
                            El Jefecito and El Nino in the same team. 3-0 tomorrow. For sure.
                            The Crushing Machine MKII

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                              #29
                              we are good but so are porto. dont get carried away. just be pissed off if we dont get at least a 6-0 win
                              in january we were doomed.

                              in august we will rise from the ashes of ****e and march on again

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                                #30
                                ITV1 are showing Celtic up here, so I'm going to have to watch it on a stream

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