The only three positives from tonight

[Johnny]

Not read the rest of this thread but how on earth can having one of your players sent off and suspended for the next match be a positive

Ridiculous. Only last week or the week before fans were moaning that McClown hadn't picked him in the England squad.

Pennant was very stupid last night but he worked his socks off and was getting as frustrated as any of us with the diving and cheating from Porto.

Apart from Arbeloa, he's probably had the best start to the season of any of our players.

Good Post

[Kenneth]

Yes,but he would have harried their midfield and broke up their obvious dominance on the ball.His passing couldn`t have been any worse than his fellow reds last night.LA!!!!

He'd probably have been sent off by half time.

[fred_plasticine]

have to say, i watched the highlights again and thought quaresma wasnt all that.
but as for Pennant, i have never been a afan and yes he can cross the ball but in my eyes we need a lot more from our wingers, we need a goal threat from the wings and Pennant hs never been that, he deserves his place in the side because he is the best we have got, doesnt mean it is good enough though

pennant is an out and out winger who's at his best in a 4-4-2. his job is to get past his man and get dangerous crosses or balls into the box.
name me wingers who play in a 4-4-2 and score many goals from open play?
the ones you're talking about are more like forwards playing mostly in 4-3-3 like systems, ie robben or ronaldo. having said that, yes, he can improve his shooting because it is certainly one of his weaknesses.

[Johnny]

He'd probably have been sent off by half time.

He`d probably have scored a hattrick!!!!!

[carlton]

or has never been a goal threat. Quaresma was everything tonight a liverpool winger should be

He looked more of a threat than pennant has in all his time at liverpool

Agreed. I dont like laying into our players but ask yourself has pennant got what it takes to perform at a high level on a consistent basis? Excuses not withstanding Im not sure whether he has the pedigree to be the sort of winger that the club needs. Im not saying get rid of him but I think we need other options

[red g]

pennant is an out and out winger who's at his best in a 4-4-2. his job is to get past his man and get dangerous crosses or balls into the box.
name me wingers who play in a 4-4-2 and score many goals from open play?
the ones you're talking about are more like forwards playing mostly in 4-3-3 like systems, ie robben or ronaldo. having said that, yes, he can improve his shooting because it is certainly one of his weaknesses.

Hleb
273 appearances and 27 goals = 9.9% return

Ribery:
187 appearances and 23 goals = 12.3% return

Ricardo Quaresma
187 appearances and 26 goals = 13.9% return

Rosicky
182 appearances and 28 goals = 15.4% return

Ryan Babel
110 appearances and 23 goals = 20.9% return

Ljunberg
316 appearances and 72 goals = 22.8% return

Pires
545 appearances and 142 goals = 26.1% return

Pennant
38 appearances and 1 goal = 2.3% return

[fred_plasticine]

Hleb
273 appearances and 27 goals = 9.9% return

Ribery:
187 appearances and 23 goals = 12.3% return

Ricardo Quaresma
187 appearances and 26 goals = 13.9% return

Rosicky
182 appearances and 28 goals = 15.4% return

Ryan Babel
110 appearances and 23 goals = 20.9% return

Ljunberg
316 appearances and 72 goals = 22.8% return

Pires
545 appearances and 142 goals = 26.1% return

Pennant
38 appearances and 1 goal = 2.3% return

doh!

[red g]

doh!

[Johnny]

What about the stats on Games played in/Games won/MOTM performances.

[sonsofthedesert]

Hleb
273 appearances and 27 goals = 9.9% return

Ribery:
187 appearances and 23 goals = 12.3% return

Ricardo Quaresma
187 appearances and 26 goals = 13.9% return

Rosicky
182 appearances and 28 goals = 15.4% return

Ryan Babel
110 appearances and 23 goals = 20.9% return

Ljunberg
316 appearances and 72 goals = 22.8% return

Pires
545 appearances and 142 goals = 26.1% return

Pennant
38 appearances and 1 goal = 2.3% return

Do you not think it would be fair using all of Pennant's game and goals for your stat instead of just with us. You have used carrers for all the other players and just 1 and a bit seasons for Pennant.

[Diego]

He has no goalscoring instinct at all.Gerrard will end up at RW until we sign a top class winger.Pennant will leave with Crouch and Kewell this year.

Cant say I would be too sad over it

i agree i think this will be the case, pennant might stay but the other two will be gone by the summer...

[red g]

Do you not think it would be fair using all of Pennant's game and goals for your stat instead of just with us. You have used carrers for all the other players and just 1 and a bit seasons for Pennant.

181 games and 10 goals are his careers stats.

think thats about 4%

[Nic83]

We got a point

Pennant is banned for the next game

What a silly thing to say. Pennant has been one of our best performers for about 8 months now.

Chelsea could only get a point

He is stupid at times.He is nowhere near good enough for us.

Why am I not surprised you havn't noticed pennant's performances over the last while.

How often do you actually watch us?

[Nic83]

Pennant cant tackle and has a major chip on his shoulder

He isn't in the team to tackle.

Jesus Christ.

[Nic83]

or has never been a goal threat. Quaresma was everything tonight a liverpool winger should be

He looked more of a threat than pennant has in all his time at liverpool

Quaresman was indifferent at best. He gave the ball away numerous times and was generally wasteful besides a few good runs and bits of skill.