crouch and kuyt compared to the rest

[Parm]

All I know about Kalou is that I’ve never seen a top level footballer lose possession more often than he does.

yup even Djibs kept hold of the ball longer than Kalou.
I do seem to remember Kuyt and Kalou forming a strong partnership at Feyenord, but it;s one thing being good in a **** league..

[Ataturk]

i think crouchies goalscoring record in europe last season, for england in the last 2 years and for southampton before he came is being forgotten in this debate.

feel really sorry him. worked his arse off to prove himself, then cast aside as soon as other strikers came through the door.

i think we dropped points against birmingham not because torres didnt play. but because rafa played two strikers that habitually come deep to get the ball. which played into birminghams game plan. crouchie would have caused them more problems imo.

crouchie is a better goalscorer than most mentioned in the original post. benni mcarthy and ashton are brilliant though. i concede that.

thats my tuppence worth.

[flyboy]

its just frustrating to see other strikers who cost the same or even less performing better than DK & RC.a little more homework by the scouts and rafa would have done a whole lot good for us

[red g]

I think the point being made is essentially that United improved when they got rid of RvN because with a player who offers more it is harder to mark your attack. McCarthy might well score a greater individual tally for us but if it came at the expense of the teams tally then that doesn't help.

At the minute we might benefit from a poacher as we are playing poorly but I think the way to better attacking play as a team is not to introduce a player who is a passenger most of the time.

hence why Scum could really do with rvn in there team now.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

All I know about Kalou is that I’ve never seen a top level footballer lose possession more often than he does.

He is one of the worst players ive seen, pure pants.

For all the money that Chelski have spent and especially on strikers they just have bought one good forward and thats Drogba.

The likes of Shev,Kezman, Kalou and Pizzaro are uselss and have been failures.

[Imy]

He is one of the worst players ive seen, pure pants.

For all the money that Chelski have spent and especially on strikers they just have bought one good forward and thats Drogba.

The likes of Shev,Kezman, Kalou and Pizzaro are uselss and have been failures.

Sheva has been a failure because he does not fit in to the Chav style of football, had he signed for us, Mancs or ideally Arsenal i think he would have been a huge hit.

Sheva the guy who banged in all the goals at Milan is a totally different kettle of fish compared to Kalou, Kezmen etc

[DancingRobot]

i rate the following better than them...not naming the obvious of course
1.keane
2.bent
3.defoe
4.yakubu
5.martins
6.ashley young
7.roque santa cruz
8.mccarthy
9.dean ashton
10.kalou
11.owen
12.bellamy

i believe this season onwards there wont be any basement buys for strikers anymore.

Defoe, Young, Yakubu.... What about Fowler?? Lets get the GOD back??

[MrMichael]

To the guy who said all Macarthy does is score - are you for real?

Hes a striker isnt he? Would you turn down trezeguet or rvn because all they do is score goals? macarthy got 18 goals in the league and scored more goals in other competitions aswell in his debut season for blackburn.

Put him in this liverpool team , he'd match that and score more maybe

-Last time I checked, Yes
-Yes he is.
-Not simply for that reason, but yes. I hate Trezeguet.
-So he did
-Not necessarily at all.

Two words. Darren Bent. By your logic he should score more for Spurs this year than he did for Charlton the last couple. I very much doubt he will.

If all we need to fix everything is a striker who "scores goals", we should sign Inzaghi. Who is a dreadful footballer with an inexplicable knack of finding the net, and whom would never EVER suit Benitez' style of play.

There seems to be some sort of impression amongst a lot of posters on here that if we changed our strikers we'd just magically score more goals, simple as that. I disagree. Strikers only score if chances are created for them, and a striker that scores 20 for one team, playing upfront with every attack directed at giving him the ball in front of goal, will not necessarily score as many for a team that plays a more team orientated style of play. Or one that simply doesn't create anything. Sure, one of the world's best may have a moment of complete magic, beat an entire defence with some sublime skill and crack one in, but that won't happen very often. Torres, a fantastic striking talent, was completely anonymous last night, and it wouldn't have mattered if he was partnered with Villa and Eto'o, none of them would have scored. McCarthy or Trezeguet certainly wouldn't have.

Oh, and there's the point that, not really all that many years ago, Fowler was scoring 30 a season for us and we didn't get within a mile of the league. Strikers scoring loads does not necessarily mean a championship winning team, and the striker that scores the most is not always the best player. It helps of course, but its no guarantee, and to think it is, well that's just foolish.

If our midfield is creating quality chances and our forwards are misfiring, that could be evidence that they aren't as good as some of the players mentioned earlier in this thread. But, when you can count on one hand the number of genuinely decent chances we've created for them, Torres included, in the last 4 or 5 CL and league games, the problem lies elsewhere and debate about strikers is a complete red herring imo.

[Joe Le Toff]

I think the point being made is essentially that United improved when they got rid of RvN because with a player who offers more it is harder to mark your attack. McCarthy might well score a greater individual tally for us but if it came at the expense of the teams tally then that doesn't help.

At the minute we might benefit from a poacher as we are playing poorly but I think the way to better attacking play as a team is not to introduce a player who is a passenger most of the time.

Do you think Utd improved when RVN left? I think theyre crying out for a player of his ilk at the moment.

Anyway, i digress

[red g]

Do you think Utd improved when RVN left? I think theyre crying out for a player of his ilk at the moment.

Anyway, i digress

they play better without him, when theya re playing well, as proved last year. when they are ****e they really need him

[ufc43]

i rate the following better than them...not naming the obvious of course
1.keane
2.bent
3.defoe
4.yakubu
5.martins
6.ashley young
7.roque santa cruz
8.mccarthy
9.dean ashton
10.kalou
11.owen
12.bellamy

i believe this season onwards there wont be any basement buys for strikers anymore.

I would have to disagree.

1.keane........Maybe
2.bent..........No
3.defoe.........No
4.yakubu.......Defo No
5.martins.......Maybe
6.ashley young..Who?
7.roque santa cruz...Ha
8.mccarthy.....One season wonder??
9.dean ashton...Eh..No
10.kalou........Early days
11.owen......Injury Free Owen (if there is such a thing)
12.bellamy......I'm glad this is the last one as I have just pissed myself!!