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Gerrard in the middle has worked well more often than it hasn't surely?Originally posted by ningnangnong View PostI tend to agree with Johnny H, Stevie G just isn't really working out in the middle, though i wouldn't go to the extent of selling him.
I think it really depends on who is with him in the midfield quartet and the tactics played.
I agree he's looked poor since he came back from England duty but then again he looked class for England without Fat Frank alongside him.
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It's worked out occasionally, but not consistently enough IMO.Originally posted by Los Rojos View PostGerrard in the middle has worked well more often than it hasn't surely?
I think it really depends on who is with him in the midfield quartet and the tactics played.
I agree he's looked poor since he came back from England duty but then again he looked class for England without Fat Frank alongside him.
On the Ning Nang Nong
Where the Cows go Bong!
And the Monkeys all say Boo!
There's a Nong Nang Ning
Where the trees go Ping!
And the tea pots Jibber Jabber Joo.
On the Nong Ning Nang
All the mice go Clang!
And you just can't catch 'em when they do!
So it's Ning Nang Nong!
Cows go Bong!
Nong Nang Ning!
Trees go Ping!
Nong Ning Nang!
The mice go clang!
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Free kick against Villa. Otherwise its been a very low key start to the season from Gerard. I dont think a whole team should be adjusted just to suit one player. I like Gerard, but sometimes you just have to pull your socks up and do your best in whatever team you are in. Everytime Liverpool put in a **** performance people always blame those around Gerard. He can be as guilty as the others at times. If theres one thing Liverpool are lacking at the minute its hunger.
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You may, just may, have a good point. After all, look how much better Arsenal seem to be without their star player....Originally posted by Johnny H View PostThis does raise the question - do we need Steven Gerrard?
When fit, I would prefer Alonso alongside Mascherano.
Alonso comes out of his shell when Gerrard isn't around, Masch is supreme in the 'Hamann' role.
Rather than stick Gerrard out wide right which he clearly dislikes, could it be that the time has come to sell him to the highest bidder?
The funds raised could overhall one or two other problem positions, wide left/left back/second striker, even wide right if Pennant decides he's lost interest.
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The problem isn't that Gerrard suddenly isn't very good in the middle. The problem is that the whole team, apart from Pepe, are playing ****e.Originally posted by ningnangnong View PostI tend to agree with Johnny H, Stevie G just isn't really working out in the middle, though i wouldn't go to the extent of selling him.
I know it's just opening up a can of worms again, but i'd stick him on the right and give him a bit of freedom. Playing in the centre, IMO he doesn't seem to get many shots in on goal, and you never see him making those marauding runs anymore as he's worried about leaving space behind him.
Right is best.
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[cough]my thread [cough]Originally posted by ningnangnong View PostI tend to agree with Johnny H, Stevie G just isn't really working out in the middle, though i wouldn't go to the extent of selling him.
To be fair it is - but he says it with such relish that it annoys the **** out of us.Originally posted by Joe Le Toff View PostHe'll continue to as well, for as long as its having such a negative effect on results and performances.
I know he prattles on about it a lot, but a lot of what he says is right IMO.
Liverpool born and bred.
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Behind the striker I think it is his best position but people will come on here and say remember Athens. Well, yes I do. However I don't remember a lot of the players having a good game- Kuyt was awful, Zenden was horrid and Xabi was all over the shop. Gerrard plays best when he doesn't have any defensive responsibilities. When we played with Momo yesterday, Gerrard knew he had to help him out because of Momo's lack of touch and sense of the game. When Gerrard has two holding, he can play more of his natural game of starting counter attacks, taking players on, shooting from distance. We know Kuyt's natural position isn't in the hole and Gerrard on countless times has played the role effectively. Maybe in the big games, we could see Rafa do it in order to control the midfield and make Gerrard and Torres the leading line. We have seen both of them do brilliantly together,Gerrard has assisted Torres on a couple of occasions, so why not start them together? We know Gerrard loved to play with Owen and Torres has been the closest thing to Owen so this might suit Gerrard.
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When Gerrard banged in over 20 goals we played with three central midfielders, two of them played behind him and that meant that Gerrard could play in a free position all over the pitch.
That is his best option without any doubt at all. It's not as a second striker. It's as a attacking midfielder causing trouble right, left and centre.Just believe and you never know what will happen.
According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.
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Yep, as mentioned in my postOriginally posted by AFII View PostWhen Gerrard banged in over 20 goals we played with three central midfielders, two of them played behind him and that meant that Gerrard could play in a free position all over the pitch.
That is his best option without any doubt at all. It's not as a second striker. It's as a attacking midfielder causing trouble right, left and centre.
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One, two, 1-2-3-4...
May I have your attention please?
May I have your attention please?
Will the real Stevie G please stand up?
I repeat, will the real Stevie G please stand up?
We’re gonna have a problem here..
Y’all act like you never seen a white person before
Jaws all on the floor like Pam, like Tommy just burst in the door
And started whoopin' her donkey worse than before
They first were divorce, throwin' her over furniture (ahh!)
It’s the return of the... "ah, wait, no way, you’re kidding,
He didn’t just say what I think he did, did he? "
And Dr. Dre said... nothing you idiots!
Dr. Dre’s dead, he’s locked in my basement! (ha-ha!)
Feminist women love eminem {*vocal turntable:
Chigga chigga chigga* "Stevie G, I’m sick of him
Look at him, walkin around grabbin his you-know-what
Flippin the you-know-who," "yeah, but he’s so cute though!"
Yeah, I probably got a couple of screws up in my head loose
But no worse, than what’s goin on in your parents’ bedrooms
Sometimes, I wanna get on TV and just let loose, but can’t
But it’s cool for Tom Green to hump a dead moose
"My bum is on your lips, my bum is on your lips"
And if I’m lucky, you might just give it a little kiss
And that’s the message that we deliver to little kids
And expect them not to know what a woman’s clitoris is
Of course they gonna know what intercourse is
By the time they hit fourth grade
They got the Discovery Channel don’t they?
"We ain’t nothing but mammals.." well, some of us cannibals
Who cut other people open like cantaloupes {*slurp*
But if we can hump dead animals and antelopes
Then there’s no reason that a man and another man can’t elope
{*ewww!* but if you feel like I feel, I got the antidote
Women wave your pantyhose, sing the chorus and it goes
I’m Stevie G, yes I’m the real Stevie
All you other Stevie Gs are just imitating
So won’t the real Stevie G please stand up,
Please stand up, please stand up?
I’m Stevie G, yes I’m the real Stevie
All you other Stevie Gs are just imitating
So won’t the real Stevie G please stand up,
Please stand up, please stand up?
Will Smith don’t gotta cuss in his raps to sell his records;
Well I do, so f*ck him and f*ck you too!
You think I give a damn about a grammy?
Half of you critics can’t even stomach me, let alone stand me
"But Steve, what if you win, wouldn’t it be weird? "
Why? So you guys could just lie to get me here?
So you can, sit me here next to Britney Spears?
Sh*t, Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs
So I can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst
And hear ’em argue over who she gave head to first
You little bitch, put me on blast on mtv
"Yeah, he’s cute, but I think he’s married to kim, hee-hee!"
I should download her audio on mp3
And show the whole world how you gave Eminem vd {*ahhh!*
I’m sick of you little girl and boy groups, all you do is annoy me
So I have been sent here to destroy you {*bzzzt*
And there’s a million of us just like me
Who cuss like me; who just don’t give a f*ck like me
Who dress like me; walk, talk and act like me
And just might be the next best thing but not quite me!
I’m Stevie G, yes I’m the real Stevie
All you other Stevie Gs are just imitating
So won’t the real Stevie G please stand up,
Please stand up, please stand up?
I’m like a head trip to listen to, cause I’m only givin you
Things you joke about with your friends inside your living room
The only difference is I got the balls to say it
In front of y’all and I don’t gotta be false or sugarcoated at all
I just get on the mic and spit it
And whether you like to admit it {*err* I just sh*t it
Better than ninety percent of you rappers out can
Then you wonder how can kids eat up these albums like Valiums
It’s funny; 'cause at the rate I’m goin' when I’m thirty
I’ll be the only person in the nursin' home flirting
Pinchin' nurses' donkeys when I’m jackin' off with jergens
And I’m jerkin' but this whole bag of Viagra isn’t working
And every single person is a Stevie G lurkin'
He could be workin' at Burger King, spittin' on your onion rings
{*hach* or in the parkin' lot, circling
Screaming "i don’t give a f*ck!"
With his windows down and his system up
So, will the real Stevie G please stand up?
And put one of those fingers on each hand up?
And be proud to be outta your mind and outta control
And one more time, loud as you can, how does it go?
I’m Stevie G, yes I’m the real Stevie
All you other Stevie Gs are just imitating
So won’t the real Stevie G please stand up,
Please stand up, please stand up?
I’m Stevie G, yes I’m the real Stevie
All you other Stevie Gs are just imitating
So won’t the real Stevie G please stand up,
Please stand up, please stand up?
Ha ha
Guess there’s a Stevie G in all of us
F*ck it, let’s all stand up
F*ck you very much..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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Agree 200%Originally posted by Howard_lfc View PostPut two midfielders in the middle and let him play just in front of them and watch him go.
IMO playing him alongside Masher or Momo simply does not work as recent results since his return to the team have shown. People can bang on about him being a world class centre midfielder all they like but for me he's an impact player and a pretty good one at that.
If we want to get the best out of him - Rafa's gonna have to accomodate him somewhere else. Simple.
At the moment SG is only the 3rd best CM at the club. I hope Rafa has the balls to move him out of the center. I dread SG's reaction to that though.The Crushing Machine MKII
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