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    62 rotations in 12 games

    That's a lot over five/game.

    Benitez blames players for slump in form
    By Glenn Moore
    Published: 05 October 2007

    Liverpool stopped "getting away with it" on Wednesday night. A series of fitful performances had been masked by results, but this time there was no escape as they lost their unbeaten record to a Marseilles team which had won only two matches previously this season.

    In their last three Premier League matches Liverpool had scored once, at Wigan on Saturday, and that game could have been lost had the linesman been sharper. In this period they also drew 1-1 in Porto being outplayed even before Jermaine Pennant's dismissal reduced them to 10 men.

    In the match programme for the Marseilles match Steven Gerrard said, "because of the start we have made, if we draw a couple of games it is described as a mini-crisis. Reality says it's a promising start to the campaign." He had a point, but now, after one win in five scrappy matches, in the Champions League and Premier League, Liverpool could fairly be described as in "mini-crisis" mode.

    That was certainly the response of the supporters, who do not often boo their own team off at Anfield, and Rafael Benitez. He was scathing about his team's performance, pointedly deflecting criticism of his rotation policy by noting "it is not the changes, it is big players not playing well". This was taken to be a reference to Gerrard and Fernando Torres, whose omissions are normally highlighted whenever Liverpool struggle in their absence.

    Gerrard was ordinary on Wednesday. Benitez had already noted that he was enduring a slump in form. He may also have been more affected by a car accident on Monday, which left a 10-year-old boy with a broken leg, than he let on, or maybe even realised. Mohamed Sissoko's abysmal display alongside did not help. Only Benitez will know why he omitted Javier Mascherano. The Argentine would have been just the player to smother Mathieu Valbuena, whose movement had been troubling Liverpool long before he scored what proved the winner. "We tried to change things at half-time but the players did not change," said Benitez darkly.

    Eric Gerets, his counterpart, had no such problems. "We were well organised – we have followed the coach's instructions," said the midfielder Benoit Cheyrou.

    Where, aside from the obvious answer of Istanbul, to play Besiktas in the next group game, do Liverpool go from here?

    "We are making it tough for ourselves but there's still four games in which we can get enough points," said centre-back Jamie Carragher. "We've got a big, strong squad and the players have proved over the last few years that we are very good in this competition."

    There was less certainty, however, when he added: "I don't know what's going wrong in Europe at the moment. It's difficult to put your finger on it."

    Goalkeeper Pepe Reina, the only par performer, said: "We have to sort it out. Everything went wrong. It was disappointing because we never play like this. I don't know if we are more focused on the League but we need to learn from these mistakes. We have to talk about it, analyse and stay calm. There is pressure but there's always pressure to win when you wear a Liverpool shirt."

    "We must improve – we must show our character now," said Benitez. Some form of continuity in team selection would seem logical. The Spaniard has now made 62 changes over 12 matches this season, and used 34 substitutes.

    Benitez is right to argue that, in a long season, players need to be used carefully. Liverpool's ability to peak in the later stages of the Champions League under him, when Chelsea and Manchester United falter, suggests he knows what he is doing. That said Liverpool, unlike their rivals, have been able to ease off in the Premier League, having faded from title contention.

    Which prompts the thought that there may be a silverware lining. The overwhelming desire at Anfield is for a 19th domestic League title, their first since 1990. The length of the wait is extraordinary given Liverpool had won 11 championships in the previous 18 seasons. An early exit in Europe could significantly enhance their chances, especially if their rivals progress.

    http://sport.independent.co.uk/footb...cle3028664.ece
    Just believe and you never know what will happen.

    According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

    #2
    **** rotation, we should be beating teams like pompey, b'ham and marseille with ease.
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      #3
      you can't blame rotation for lack of heart and commitment, gerrard plays almost every game yet he hardly shows up...
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        #4
        [QUOTE=Diego;711485]you can't blame rotation for lack of heart and commitment, gerrard plays almost every game yet he hardly shows up.. heres the spine of the 3 teams above us for the last few years! chavs: cech terry makelele lampard drogba. mancs: van der sar vidic scholes giggs rooney arsenal: lehman torre febregas hendry( gone but always played) liverpool: reina carragher gerrard torres. how often do they start together ? my point is,get your best 11 out there every week when they cant walk,rest them.untill then they play every game.because every game is "important" this bull**** changing dosent help anyone. rafa will be a major factor in us winning the league.but he,ll play some roll in helping us loose it if this **** keeps up ! how come rooney can play 50 or 60 games a season. how come scholes and giggs have played 60 games a year for 10 years and are still doing it at the highest level every week ? come on rafa ,stop the changing.get your best 11 and stick with it ! and please,the next time someone offers money for sissoko take it ! the man has the first touch of a rapist! hes not liverpool standard and isnt the future of our midfield ! rant over ...............
        a red since 1977 a manc hater since nappies

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          #5
          I don't care if we go out of the CL as long as we win the league.

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            #6
            Originally posted by fredo View Post
            I don't care if we go out of the CL as long as we win the league.

            I feel exactly the same way but winning the league is nothing but a dream at this time. I'd believe we could if Benitez did!!

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              #7
              Originally posted by Diego View Post
              you can't blame rotation for lack of heart and commitment, gerrard plays almost every game yet he hardly shows up...

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                #8
                Originally posted by sid View Post
                I feel exactly the same way but winning the league is nothing but a dream at this time. I'd believe we could if Benitez did!!
                how the fook is it such a dream ? ffs look at the table

                ya may be right by xmas - but i doubt it

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                  #9
                  To be fair, changing the team for the Carling Cup then changing it back again probably accounts for about 15 changes on its own and the 5 chnages for wednesday, so about a third of the 'rotations' cover 2 games. It'll be up to about 70 changes come Sunday so overall the amount of rotations doesnt refelct the games we have played.
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                    #10
                    Just before the international break I saw an article in the independent about the number of rotations/changes made by each team.

                    Liverpool were the same as Arsenal and had made less than every other side bar Blackburn.

                    The next time a reporter mentions rotation I wish they would look at the other teams by way of comparison.

                    Arsenal haven't changed their side in a while, but apparently 5 of them are carrying knocks and playing through the pain barrier, and we're not even a quarter of the way through the season.

                    If we win our game in hand we're second in the table. From one of the worst away records in the league, we currently have the best.

                    We haven't played well since the international break, but don't forget the football we were playing before that - with the same players everyone is now saying are so ****.

                    We've got to turn it around quickly, but come Feb/March I have no doubt we will be the sharpest side in the league, and provided we are close to the top we have every chance of winning it.

                    Last season I think we were the top side from November; the season before we were the top side from end of September, but both times we were already well out of the title race.

                    This season we're still very much in the title race, have a better squad, a top quality striker. We are having a tough time, but take say Vidic & Scholes out of United and see how well they cope.

                    The sooner Alonso and Agger return the better.
                    "The definition of insanity is not running into the same wall again and again; it's expecting a different result every time you do it."

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by friedk View Post
                      Just before the international break I saw an article in the independent about the number of rotations/changes made by each team.

                      Liverpool were the same as Arsenal and had made less than every other side bar Blackburn.

                      The next time a reporter mentions rotation I wish they would look at the other teams by way of comparison.

                      Arsenal haven't changed their side in a while, but apparently 5 of them are carrying knocks and playing through the pain barrier, and we're not even a quarter of the way through the season.

                      If we win our game in hand we're second in the table. From one of the worst away records in the league, we currently have the best.

                      We haven't played well since the international break, but don't forget the football we were playing before that - with the same players everyone is now saying are so ****.

                      We've got to turn it around quickly, but come Feb/March I have no doubt we will be the sharpest side in the league, and provided we are close to the top we have every chance of winning it.

                      Last season I think we were the top side from November; the season before we were the top side from end of September, but both times we were already well out of the title race.

                      This season we're still very much in the title race, have a better squad, a top quality striker. We are having a tough time, but take say Vidic & Scholes out of United and see how well they cope.

                      The sooner Alonso and Agger return the better.
                      the voice of reason AT LAST

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                        #12
                        [QUOTE=corbylpfc;711509 how come rooney can play 50 or 60 games a season.[/QUOTE]

                        Rooney played about the same amount of games as Kuyt did last season.
                        Also need to remember the rotation figure is so high due to the 2 matches against Toulouse were we made major changes. If he had of played with his full team against them I can just imagine the out cry on here.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by fredo View Post
                          I don't care if we go out of the CL as long as we win the league.
                          Ditto.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by friedk View Post
                            Just before the international break I saw an article in the independent about the number of rotations/changes made by each team.

                            Liverpool were the same as Arsenal and had made less than every other side bar Blackburn.

                            The next time a reporter mentions rotation I wish they would look at the other teams by way of comparison.

                            Arsenal haven't changed their side in a while, but apparently 5 of them are carrying knocks and playing through the pain barrier, and we're not even a quarter of the way through the season.

                            If we win our game in hand we're second in the table. From one of the worst away records in the league, we currently have the best.

                            We haven't played well since the international break, but don't forget the football we were playing before that - with the same players everyone is now saying are so ****.

                            We've got to turn it around quickly, but come Feb/March I have no doubt we will be the sharpest side in the league, and provided we are close to the top we have every chance of winning it.

                            Last season I think we were the top side from November; the season before we were the top side from end of September, but both times we were already well out of the title race.

                            This season we're still very much in the title race, have a better squad, a top quality striker. We are having a tough time, but take say Vidic & Scholes out of United and see how well they cope.

                            The sooner Alonso and Agger return the better.
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                            Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                            Now all my lies are proved untrue
                            And I must face the men I slew.
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                            Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                              #15
                              Still 62 changes over 12 matches this season, and used 34 substitutes is


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