Crouch storms out?

[thesilverfoxlfc]

Anyone else thought that as Rafa sees the players every day in training and not just on match days, like us, he know's and is better equipped to make a decision on who should play up front based on effort on the training pitch etc...?

Just a thought, like.

Do you think he's go a good backroom staff to advise him well??

[kurtangle01]

Even i am a bit frustrated with Kuyt randomly popping up in our half tackling when he should be further up the field. But I am sure he is playing deep on Rafa's instruction.

Do honestly think he would have lasted more than a couple of matches if he plays deep against Rafa's instructions!!!

Another good point well made. Don't let things like this get in the way of a good witch hunt though, eh?

[kurtangle01]

Do you think he's go a good backroom staff to advise him well??

Doesn't matter what I think. As long as Rafa has confidence in them who am I to say? He's the one that has to work with them.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Anyone else thought that as Rafa sees the players every day in training and not just on match days, like us, he know's and is better equipped to make a decision on who should play up front based on effort on the training pitch etc...?

Just a thought, like.

Vladimir Smicer, according to everyone at the time he was mustard in training, but we all saw how inconsistent he was during the games, and he was a player of decent ability. Kuyt's ****ing shocking. I can't fathom why you'd have him in ahead of Crouch.

Take Crouchie's hatrick V Arsenal at home last season. Kuyt could never in a million years score a hatrick like that. That's the difference for me.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

Doesn't matter what I think. As long as Rafa has confidence in them who am I to say? He's the one that has to work with them.

Tis true, but i dont like the look of that Miller he doesnt inspire me our the players id say. He just sits there with the arms folded at least Pako had a pen and paper and was doing a bit of work

[thesilverfoxlfc]

Vladimir Smicer, according to everyone at the time he was mustard in training, but we all saw how inconsistent he was during the games, and he was a player of decent ability. Kuyt's ****ing shocking. I can't fathom why you'd have him in ahead of Crouch.

Take Crouchie's hatrick V Arsenal at home last season. Kuyt could never in a million years score a hatrick like that. That's the difference for me.

[Joe King]

Tis true, but i dont like the look of that Miller he doesnt inspire me our the players id say. He just sits there with the arms folded at least Pako had a pen and paper and was doing a bit of work

That guy who looks like David Platt from Corrie has all the paperwork now

Miller is the first team coach and does the preparations and take the warm up whilst Miguel is taking notes and patterns of opposition play like Pako would do

[Joe King]

Vladimir Smicer, according to everyone at the time he was mustard in training, but we all saw how inconsistent he was during the games, and he was a player of decent ability. Kuyt's ****ing shocking. I can't fathom why you'd have him in ahead of Crouch.

Take Crouchie's hatrick V Arsenal at home last season. Kuyt could never in a million years score a hatrick like that. That's the difference for me.

Arsenal were shocking away from home last season, I wasn't surprised the amount we beat them by. Yes, it was a good hat trick for Crouch but he is far too inconsistent and the manner we play with now, Crouch can't fit into the system

[kurtangle01]

Vladimir Smicer, according to everyone at the time he was mustard in training, but we all saw how inconsistent he was during the games, and he was a player of decent ability. Kuyt's ****ing shocking. I can't fathom why you'd have him in ahead of Crouch.

Take Crouchie's hatrick V Arsenal at home last season. Kuyt could never in a million years score a hatrick like that. That's the difference for me.

Nonsense, mate. How do you know Kuyt couldn't score a hatrick like that? I mean honestly?! Put valid points across but don't let your dislike of Kuyt rule your head. I'm not sying he definitely could but you don't know that he couldn't.

Crouch is average. Tell me, in this current Liverpool team what does he offer? Kuyt is more versatlie, a bit crude, yes, but could Crouch play down the wing on either side the Kuyt has done for us? Kuyt isn't the quickest but Crouch is even slower, he's also a hell of alot weaker.

Peter Crouch despite being alot taller than most players still can't win a header when challenged. I was at the match on Wednesday and the amount of times he was beaten to a header by a Marseille player, who was smaller than him and was stood behind him. Infuriating to say the least.

Yeah Crouch offers alot...

[Joe King]

Nonsense, mate. How do you know Kuyt couldn't score a hatrick like that? I mean honestly?! Put valid points across but don't let your dislike of Kuyt rule your head. I'm not sying he definitely could but you don't know that he couldn't.

Crouch is average. Tell me, in this current Liverpool team what does he offer? Kuyt is more versatlie, a bit crude, yes, but could Crouch play down the wing on either side the Kuyt has done for us? Kuyt isn't the quickest but Crouch is even slower, he's also a hell of alot weaker.

Peter Crouch despite being alot taller than most players still can't win a header when challenged. I was at the match on Wednesday and the amount of times he was beaten to a header by a Marseille player, who was smaller than him and was stood behind him.

Yeah Crouch offers alot...

For a big oaf, he offers nothing aerially. He offers what? 'Touch?' He's no Kaka, Ronaldinho in touch, its ok, nothing special. In fact, if you are a professional footballer you are supposed to have a good touch.

[AFII]

I would say that it really don't matter how good or bad Crouch is if he has stormed out.

No player is bigger than the club, no one. If Gerrard acted in this way or Carra then he should be sold in the next transfer window.

Unity in the dressing room is the most important thing, everything else comes second.

If Rafa loses the dressing room then his days as manager of Liverpool FC is over.

[kurtangle01]

For a big oaf, he offers nothing aerially. He offers what? 'Touch?' He's no Kaka, Ronaldinho in touch, its ok, nothing special. In fact, if you are a professional footballer you are supposed to have a good touch.

If he never had that 'good touch' he would have nothing. He currently offers nothing.

[bigfooty]

Crouch can't fit into the system

The "system" is hardly working miracles for us in the league is it, either last season or this.

I mean, was that 120M worth of "system" on show today?

[Craig_H]

Nonsense, mate. How do you know Kuyt couldn't score a hatrick like that? I mean honestly?! Put valid points across but don't let your dislike of Kuyt rule your head. I'm not sying he definitely could but you don't know that he couldn't.

Crouch is average. Tell me, in this current Liverpool team what does he offer? Kuyt is more versatlie, a bit crude, yes, but could Crouch play down the wing on either side the Kuyt has done for us? Kuyt isn't the quickest but Crouch is even slower, he's also a hell of alot weaker.

Peter Crouch despite being alot taller than most players still can't win a header when challenged. I was at the match on Wednesday and the amount of times he was beaten to a header by a Marseille player, who was smaller than him and was stood behind him. Infuriating to say the least.

Yeah Crouch offers alot...

Crouch scores goals mate. Prolifically too, when given the chance.

Proven goalscorer.

Is Kuyt?

[Craig_H]

If Rafa loses the dressing room then his days as manager of Liverpool FC is over.

Spot on. Crucial test of Rafa's man-management skills.