Market values...

[AFII]

Who on earth would pay £5m for an ageing Finnan??

In fact, several of your prices are a bit inflated

They are not inflated when you consider which clubs that would be interested in signing them.

Real signed Pepe for around £20m and Agger is worth at least that.

[dww]

I think Agger would be worth more than £10m. He is young and a genuinely exceptional player - there are a very few CBs who can hack PL pace and play football.

To be honest while they are playing at the level they are Finnan and Hyypia would never fetch enough money to make it worth selling them. Particularly Finnan who is in the team on merit and it would be incredibly hard to replace for the sort of money he would raise.

I think players like Babel and Lucas are very hard to value. I'm not even sure how much we paid up front for either of them and I suspect any deal would be performance related. I would imagine though that considering the interest when we nabbed him Lucas would have held value.

[AFII]

You would also have to count how how important the player is for the team.

Reina and Agger for example are key players so the price would go up because of that.

I wouldn't sell Agger or Reina for anything less than a fantasy price just because we wouldn't be able to replace them with good enough players and Rafa's system is built around them.

[Iceman]

Any player's value is dependant on how much the buying team think he is worth and how badly they want him.

Traditionally we have sold players for what may seem cheap prices, but this is because we pay very very good wages, so for buying teams to afford to pay them what they are earning now we have to knock the odd couple of million off the selling price, if we didnt and the player settled for lower wages at another club he is entitled to ask us to make up the difference over what remains of his existing contract with us

[tomasjj]

Alonso for 9 millon? haha More like 20 millions.

You did that to get a reaction you sly dog

[Pacman]

What do you think our players are currently worth?

I dont mean how much would a tabloid hype their values to, i mean what would they genuinely fetch on the market if they were sold?

IMO:

Reina - £15m
Finnan - £2m
Agger - £18m
Carra - £10m
Riise - £6m
Arbeloa - £6m
Aurelio - £4m
Hyypia - Free
Kewell - zero (contract up in Summer 2008)
Gerrard - £38m
Torres - £28m
Voronin - £4m
Benayoun - £6m
Alonso - £17m
Crouch - £8m
Pennant - £7.5m
Kuyt - £10m
Babel - £10m
Masherano - £17m
Lucas - £5m
Sissoko - £8m


Not bothering with the bit part players...

Any thoughts? Remember, this isnt what YOU might think they're worth, with your little biased red hat on

It's what their market value would be...

[carheex]

IMO:

Reina - £15m+
Finnan - £5m
Agger - £20m+
Carra - £10m
Riise - £6m
Arbeloa - £8m
Aurelio - £3m
Hyypia - £1m
Kewell - zero (contract up in Summer 2008)
Gerrard - £40m+
Torres - £30m+
Voronin - £3m
Benayoun - £5m
Alonso - £25m+
Crouch - £8m
Pennant - £4.5m
Kuyt - £10m
Babel - £15m
Masherano - £25m+
Lucas - £10m+
Sissoko - £5m

I'm sure DJS asked for "realistic" and unbiased valuations!

The most interesting thing about this thread is that everyone has Gerrard as the most valuable asset yet in recent weeks, everyone has been slagging him off saying he isn't our most important player. Confusing.

[Iceman]

Mascherano's value is very very uncertain due to MSI owning his comercial rights any transfer would be as complex as the Tevez to scum one, things could change dramatically if FIFA or UEFA ban 3 rd party ownership of players.

From our point of view it would be great if MSI were left in an untennable position over his ownership

[dww]

Mascherano's value is very very uncertain due to MSI owning his comercial rights any transfer would be as complex as the Tevez to scum one, things could change dramatically if FIFA or UEFA ban 3 rd party ownership of players.

From our point of view it would be great if MSI were left in an untennable position over his ownership

I actually think the only complicated thing about the Tevez move was that the FA didn't want to have to admit what had happened the season before with West Ham in terms of the agreement not having been torn up in any meaningful way by West Ham.

The deal for Mascher to us and Tevez to United seem to basically normalise the situation (if you assume both are on loan with a clause to buy them). I believe that Maschers market value will be roughly what we have got as the agreed fee - because obviously we are willing to pay that at least in principle and I think he would be much in demand in Spain and Italy.

[tomasjj]

Reina - £15m
Finnan - £2m
Agger - £14m
Carra - £7m
Riise - £6m
Arbeloa - £5m
Aurelio - £3m
Hyypia - £1m
Kewell - zero (contract up in Summer 2008)
Gerrard - £30-35m
Torres - £25m
Voronin - £5m
Benayoun - £5m
Alonso - £22m
Crouch - £8m
Pennant - £6m
Kuyt - £9m
Babel - £10m
Masherano - £20m
Lucas - £5m
Sissoko - £7m

...

something like that

[Craig_H]

I'm sure Gerrard would fetch considerably more than £25m.

[tomasjj]

I'm sure Gerrard would fetch considerably more than £25m.

Yes, I was just thinking that myself.
Not how much value I think he has to the team, but more how much he would fetch.


More like 30-35 mill, I suspect.

[carheex]

Mascherano's value is very very uncertain due to MSI owning his comercial rights any transfer would be as complex as the Tevez to scum one, things could change dramatically if FIFA or UEFA ban 3 rd party ownership of players.

From our point of view it would be great if MSI were left in an untennable position over his ownership

But utd still haven't signed Tevez - he's on a 2 year loan if I'm not mistaken, which has cost them 6m?

[Parm]

Yes, I was just thinking that myself.
Not how much value I think he has to the team, but more how much he would fetch.


More like 30-35 mill, I suspect.

hmm. his is an interesting situation, he certainly hasnt been playing like a 30-35mill player for some time now, but with all the media hype and past performances still in peoples minds I suppose we could blag that sort of fee mentioned tomas.

[memzey]

Players are only worth what the purchasing clubs are willing to pay. Some of the factors from which a valuation may be derived are squad shortages amongst top clubs in Europe, finance of purchasing clubs and the perceived financial strength of the seller, as well as the desire of the player in question to leave. That means each players' valuation depends on a unique and changing set of circumstances at any point in time, which makes an exercise such as this fun for some fans to try, but ultimately pointless and pretty much impossible to get right with any degree of accuracy.



Having said all of that I think our squad is worth squillions and Man Utd's and Evertons' together couldn't buy a packet of fags