kuyt bashers

[Neil Young]

Kuyt = Mista

How many top-class strikers in the squad would satisfy people? Apart from Barcelona, who else has got loads of great strikers?

[IanTatt]

He is a poor finisher, his touch is sometimes a joke, he is slow that equates to a poor player not upto standard required along with crouch and voronin.

[paulcooper4]

Kuyt is ****in boss. Puts more effort into the reds than most of the other players put together.

[AFII]

Kuyt = Mista

How many top-class strikers in the squad would satisfy people? Apart from Barcelona, who else has got loads of great strikers?

We need at least one more top class striker that can cover for Torres or play with him upfront.

[dww]

Actually what DOES he offer?

Lets do some pros and cons of Dirk Kuyt.

I'll start.


Pros:
Workrate
Big heart

Cons:

No skill
No vision
Loses ball alot

Copy and paster your adds to the list

I assume when you say vision you mean ability to see a pass? I actually think he is pretty good at this and his awareness of other attacking players making runs off him is very good. He isn't however a great passer other than short range.

When he has players running off him he makes a lot of good flicks and passes into peoples feet which go unnoticed, especially if the recipient buggers up.

Another pro would be his strength and willingness to move defenders around. His movement created acres of room in the Everton box in the second half on Saturday, which we exploited very badly.

On the negative side he has not proved to be a clinical finisher in the PL or CL.

He also lacks pace, although his initial acceleration is pretty good.

[desertscouser]

Kuyt is ****in boss. Puts more effort into the reds than most of the other players put together.

Paul mate, I agree with you regarding his effort. It's phenomenal and absolutely must be applauded but is work rate enough for you? He really offers little else over 90 minutes in my opinion.

[Red_hot]

Kuyt is ****in boss. Puts more effort into the reds than most of the other players put together.

[Shaggy]

I don't think it's a coincidence that our two worst footballers in terms of pure ability and technique (Momo & Kuyt - although I'm being kind to Riise) are the two that work, by a distance, the hardest.

Make up for what they lack in actual talent by running around a lot and working their bollocks off. Fair enough, I suppose, but they are areas in the squad which can both improved upon.

[Nic83]

Paul mate, I agree with you regarding his effort. It's phenomenal and absolutely must be applauded but is work rate enough for you? He really offers little else over 90 minutes in my opinion.

Exactly. I can't understand how people think workrate and not much else is good enough for a supposedly title chasing side

I mean fair play to the lad for his effort and he will never be a player that's disliked but it can only get him so far. His trial period is nearly over IMO so he'd wanna start producing some quality quickly.

[AFII]

I doubt that he will be sold because he is doing what Rafa tells him to do, so we will just hope that he start to deliver more goals.

[paulcooper4]

Paul mate, I agree with you regarding his effort. It's phenomenal and absolutely must be applauded but is work rate enough for you? He really offers little else over 90 minutes in my opinion.

Fair do`s mate, my opinion is he offers a hell of a lot during 90 minutes. He chases everything down, he ALWAYS shows for the ball, he works the channels superbly, puts a lot of good crosses into the box and is a very clever player.

[dww]

I don't think it's a coincidence that our two worst footballers in terms of pure ability and technique (Momo & Kuyt - although I'm being kind to Riise) are the two that work, by a distance, the hardest.

Make up for what they lack in actual talent by running around a lot and working their bollocks off. Fair enough, I suppose, but they are areas in the squad which can both improved upon.

I think there is something in this. I have said before I'm not a big fan of both of them being in the same team in general.

I think that actually it worked okay at times on Saturday as Kuyt was further up the pitch than he often is. Part of the problem IMO is that he works too hard in a way - by that I mean that he chases too deep and this negates a lot of his better qualities. If he was forced to do a more conventional centre forwards role I still think he would have a lot to offer for us. The way he is utilised (or possibly chooses to play) at the minute is not really helping our team. This is exacerbated by the lack of Alonso and Agger to move our lay out of defence and into the opposition half with any pace.

[paulcooper4]

Exactly. I can't understand how people think workrate and not much else is good enough for a supposedly title chasing side

I mean fair play to the lad for his effort and he will never be a player that's disliked but it can only get him so far. His trial period is nearly over IMO so he'd wanna start producing some quality quickly.

Maybe some people think he offers a bit more than just workrate. Kuyt does so many good things on the pitch, yes id like to see more goals from him, but I cant ignore all the other things which he does exceptionally well.

[desertscouser]

Fair do`s mate, my opinion is he offers a hell of a lot during 90 minutes. He chases everything down, he ALWAYS shows for the ball, he works the channels superbly, puts a lot of good crosses into the box and is a very clever player.

There's no doubt that we could do alot worse than Kuyt but alternatively there are definitely better options out there. We need a striker alongside Torres who strikes fear into the hearts of the opposition.

Although I'm critical of Kuyt as a footballer, I do find it difficult to criticise Liverpool players who give 150% on the pitch and I think I speak for most on here. Kuyt is a top pro and an awesome 'team' player but for the reds to really push on we need more quality up front in the final third in my opinion.

[Sarb]

Maybe some people think he offers a bit more than just workrate. Kuyt does so many good things on the pitch, yes id like to see more goals from him, but I cant ignore all the other things which he does exceptionally well.

Kuyt can finish. No doubt about that. Just have to look at his goal against Chelsea in the League last season. Think people on here are too harsh on him. He puts in loads of effort yes, doesn't score that many yes. But maybe Rafa wants him to concentrate on the other aspects hence the work rate and provide for others?