Lots of positive stuff about Rafa

[Craig_H]

You got me there.

You muppet

[Woobus]

Full backing for Rafa from me. I was expecting for us to be closer to the top than we are now, but when you take into account the amount of injuries we have had then I am satisfied with the way the league is going. When we get our main payers back I think we will see the proper Liverpool, lets just hope its sooner rather than later.

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[Pacman]

Some very ****ing good reasons.

He won the CL with a "****" team and taken us to another final.
He has won the FA Cup.
He has been able to go after his number one targets in one window.
No one of the team above us has had the same injury problems as us.
Rafa has showed that we can play great football.
Give him money and he will deliver, Torres is proof of that.
We have signed some very exciting youngsters.

Rafa is our manager and should continue to be that because he is the best possible option out there.

Absolutely he should stay. If we got rid we'd be lucky just to go through the same **** with the next man. It takes time to create a great team, and that's what Rafa is doing. Of course there are exceptions, but the point is even the finest managers often take time to really make their mark. As long as we keep seeing a reasonable level of improvement, Rafa's the man.

Of course he must stay. He is making mistakes and we are playing poorly but we are only 6pts off the top, in the LC QF, the FAC hasn't even started yet, SG is coming back to his best, HK looked good, Torres Agger and Alonso will be back in a few weeks, and its not even December.

We really need to get behind rafa and the team at the moment, because there are people out there who call themselves liverpool fans that heaping pressure on him and the team. Thick ****s, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. 606ers should be shot.

some people are never happy
last few years how much would you have given for us to be six points off the top with a game in hand on most of those around us?
this absolute bull**** every time we lose/draw its the end of the world .
its beyond a ****ing joke at this stage

Well ****ing said

[Joe Le Toff]

If Crouch has had a bust up with Rafa then he simply can't play him from the start.

Why not?
Its about doing whats best for the team, if Rafa is allowing personal feelings to come into it and isnt picking him for that then hes not doing his job, what are they, children?

[badpiggy]

I'm willing to wait until summer 2009 before wanting a change. I think after 5 or 6 seasons you can only then judge if or how we have improved and if a change in management is needed. That will be the summer after next.

The one thing that does concern me is the style of football that we are playing. I'm hoping that if we get a couple of players things will change because we aren't very pretty to watch at the moment.

spot on. i.e. i agree.

[Joe Le Toff]

Some very ****ing good reasons.

He won the CL with a "****" team and taken us to another final.
He has won the FA Cup.
He has been able to go after his number one targets in one window.
No one of the team above us has had the same injury problems as us.
Rafa has showed that we can play great football.
Give him money and he will deliver, Torres is proof of that.
We have signed some very exciting youngsters.

Rafa is our manager and should continue to be that because he is the best possible option out there.

Nobody with an ounce of common sense is saying he should go.

He IS the best man for the job, he just needs to get the team to raise their game to the standard that we all know they can.

[einar]

The one thing that I think Rafa is doing 100% wrong is when he bench a player that played a good game and give a player like Kuyt a chance even if he hasn't delivered in a long time.

If he continue to do that then he will get less motivated players because they have one less thing to fight for, a place in the starting XI.

You should be able to play yourself into an undroppable position but you can't.

I think this is just untrue. There are players who always play. Not every game but they play almost every big game. Torres, Gerrard, Xabi, Mascherano, Carra, Agger, Reina. And as for Torres, Xabi, Mascherano, Agger and Reina they earned their place. And so can others.

Plus you have to get out of this 10+ years ago thinking about if you play well you have some divine right to play the next game.
RAFA DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT. And all the players know that. And you can see the once that accept that. Mascherano is one. He very recently stated that he would like nothing more then to commit his long term future to Liverpool. That for me speaks volumes about what Rafa is trying to create at our beloved club. I think almost any club in the world would take Javier Mascherano with open arms. He wants to stay with Liverpool. And that is largely because of Rafa.

So I dont agree with you that Rafa is 100% wrong in benching players even if they play well. That is how he works, he does that for a reason. And this last dip in form in not enough to make me doubt his work as a manager.
Actually, doubting his work as a manager at this point in time is nothing short of madness, IMHO.

[fred_plasticine]

I think this is just untrue. there are players who always play. Not every game but they play almost every big game. Torres, Gerrard, Xabi, Mascherano, Carra, Agger, Reina. And as for Torres, Xabi, Mascherano, Agger and Reina they earned their place. And so can others.

[einar]

Why not?
Its about doing whats best for the team, if Rafa is allowing personal feelings to come into it and isnt picking him for that then hes not doing his job, what are they, children?

A manager who lets a player misbehave and then starts him in the next game, is not worth the title.

[Craig_H]

'misbehave'...

Kinell, this is Crouch we're on about, not Diouf...

[tomasjj]

'misbehave'...

Kinell, this is Crouch we're on about, not Diouf...

We don't know anything about what goes on, we can only assume.
This means we have no idea if 'misbehave' is a right or wrong assertion.

[AFII]

We don't know anything about what goes on, we can only assume.
This means we have no idea if 'misbehave' is a right or wrong assertion.

If Rafa would play Crouch if they had a bust up then more players could start to think that it's ok to moan at Rafa.

In the end, that could end up with that Rafa lose the dressing room.

The manager must show that he is the boss, he must come down hard on these sort of things.