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Voronin was very good.
He set up a lot of our goals, just like you say.
A lot of people on here like Crouch more, so they will just say exactly what you wrote above - Crouch was great and scored 2 - play him Rafa. Voronin then? Nah, he was just ok, them Turks were dross.
It's just agendas to suit their favourite players, and we all have our own favourites.
I think the difference being is that the crow has started far more games than Crouch this season yet Crouch always seems to make a difference. Credit where credit it is due the crow was just out shone by yossi last night.
[QUOTE It's just agendas to suit their favourite players, and we all have our own favourites.[/QUOTE]
For the record I don't think Crouch or Voronin are good enough, I'm not sure Kuyt is either but Voronin fits into the mould of we need 4 strikers who aren't going to go running to the papers or their agent when they aren't playing.
I'm not comparing Voronin to Solksjaer(sp?) but he was the Mancs 4th choice for years and never complained, scored vital goals and played in different positions, turned down countless chances to leave but wanted to play for the club.
That's what I want - players who want to play for the club and accept their role be it playing more often than not or being sub more often.
The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.
[QUOTE It's just agendas to suit their favourite players, and we all have our own favourites.
For the record I don't think Crouch or Voronin are good enough, I'm not sure Kuyt is either but Voronin fits into the mould of we need 4 strikers who aren't going to go running to the papers or their agent when they aren't playing.
I'm not comparing Voronin to Solksjaer(sp?) but he was the Mancs 4th choice for years and never complained, scored vital goals and played in different positions, turned down countless chances to leave but wanted to play for the club.
That's what I want - players who want to play for the club and accept their role be it playing more often than not or being sub more often.[/QUOTE]
No complaints at all about Voronin – Every ‘top’ club needs at least four strikers, we had Crouch/Kuyt and were looking for a top player Torres – we needed a fourth and we picked up Voronin on a free, he works hard and gets involved and is a solid squad player. He has been poor with kuyt, and was ****e against arsenal but he was being played as a left winger and was completely lost. In Torres, we have a genuine top class striker, in Voronin we have a solid fourth choice player who can be rotated quite easily. Imo it’s the the 2nd/3rd choice strikers we need to look at/pull their fingers out etc
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Average player. Best performance so far but against poor opposition. we won't see many performances like that from him. I agree he's better than Kuyt though
Average player. Best performance so far but against poor opposition. we won't see many performances like that from him. I agree he's better than Kuyt though
and if thats what average players do then I hope we sign a few more. Every time he plays he either scores or causes bother, what more do you want? Pretend you saw him do a stepover on youtube once and you may appreciate him a bit more then
and if thats what average players do then I hope we sign a few more. Every time he plays he either scores or causes bother, what more do you want? Pretend you saw him do a stepover on youtube once and you may appreciate him a bit more then
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