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I presume from the smiley you mean he will come here looking like just what we need to add attacking flair to the Liverpool team before disappearing having never been trusted by the manager?Originally posted by Harveybirdman View PostHe's the next Litmanen
I guess it depends on quite how much he is rated. Fabregas/Rooney/Milner all played their first games in the PL at 16/17 so if he was of the level of talent of the first two then maybe it would be worth getting excited about.Originally posted by Neil Young View PostEven if someone has, why value their opinion? I mean, they might be brilliant judges of a young player...but then again I'd hope our scouts would be too and they obviously think he's got potential.
As for "most people" wanting to know more about him, maybe you're right but I still don't see the point getting excited about our signing a 16-year old. Of course, you may well disagree.
In general though I agree with you that people do get far too excited when we bring in a good looking youngster. The chances of any of them progressing to being top players is very low. I'm glad we have a determined policy to build on our youth team but beyond that I will wait to see a player in the first team (or at least on loan at a team of known quality) before I get too interested in them individually."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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To be fair it was rather rare that we where getting in the most talented youngsters around.Originally posted by dww View PostI presume from the smiley you mean he will come here looking like just what we need to add attacking flair to the Liverpool team before disappearing having never been trusted by the manager?
I guess it depends on quite how much he is rated. Fabregas/Rooney/Milner all played their first games in the PL at 16/17 so if he was of the level of talent of the first two then maybe it would be worth getting excited about.
In general though I agree with you that people do get far too excited when we bring in a good looking youngster. The chances of any of them progressing to being top players is very low. I'm glad we have a determined policy to build on our youth team but beyond that I will wait to see a player in the first team (or at least on loan at a team of known quality) before I get too interested in them individually.
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That was what I meant I'm happy we have started to do so and I'm vaguely interested to see the youth/reserve teams doing well but I get the impression that we get a bit obsessive about individuals when really we know very little.Originally posted by einar View PostTo be fair it was rather rare that we where getting in the most talented youngsters around."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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True. I just think this improvement is a good reason to get exited.Originally posted by dww View PostThat was what I meant I'm happy we have started to do so and I'm vaguely interested to see the youth/reserve teams doing well but I get the impression that we get a bit obsessive about individuals when really we know very little.
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Yes, I take your point, maybe it would be but the Milner example shows how even promising performances in the Premiership don't mean he's going to be a world-beater, let alone how he's played to date in youth football and/or Finland (with all due respect to that fine country).Originally posted by dww View PostI presume from the smiley you mean he will come here looking like just what we need to add attacking flair to the Liverpool team before disappearing having never been trusted by the manager?
I guess it depends on quite how much he is rated. Fabregas/Rooney/Milner all played their first games in the PL at 16/17 so if he was of the level of talent of the first two then maybe it would be worth getting excited about.
In general though I agree with you that people do get far too excited when we bring in a good looking youngster. The chances of any of them progressing to being top players is very low. I'm glad we have a determined policy to build on our youth team but beyond that I will wait to see a player in the first team (or at least on loan at a team of known quality) before I get too interested in them individually.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Originally posted by Finnish_Red View PostAccording to a local newspaper Lauri Dalla Valle signed a 3,5 year contract on wednesday evening with Liverpool FC. He'll receive a signing fee between 500k-1M£, exact fee and salary are not told.
The whole family was in Liverpool this week where Lauri took part in practise kept by a Liverpool legend Kevin Keegan on wednesday.
"It's a great feeling, there's really nice people here and the facilities are great. I hope I can get quickly to Melwood where 1st team and reserves practise" Lauri said.
Lauri met Sami Hyypiä, who gave him a lot of good tips for the future, on tuesday.
"Sami had only positive things to say about Liverpool, but he also reminded me that it takes a lot of work to make it to the top, and staying there."
Who: Lauri Dalla Valle
Born: 14.9.1991 Joensuu.
Height/weight: 180 cm/73 kg.
Position: attacking midfielder.
Club: Liverpool FC.
Earlier clubs: Jippo, Internazionale Milano (Italia), Jippo, JiiPee.
Caps: 10 youth caps, nine goals.
Played six games for Jippo's first team in finnish 1st division this season.
Coaches: Loreno Dalla Valle 1997–2002, Jari Hyvärinen 2003–05, Jarmo Korhonen 2006–07. Fyysisenä valmentajana Henri Lomu 2003–07.
Another million spunked away on someone who will more than likely amount to nothing.
Why can't we sort the first team and then worry about the reserves/future? With the money spent on all the "potential stars" that apparently all the top clubs have been after, we could have bought another genuine world class proven talent. I'm quite cross.
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Just my opinion, but I think Milner still has great potential, isn't he still playing for England U21'sOriginally posted by Neil Young View PostYes, I take your point, maybe it would be but the Milner example shows how even promising performances in the Premiership don't mean he's going to be a world-beater, let alone how he's played to date in youth football and/or Finland (with all due respect to that fine country).
Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
* After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs
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Milner is a good player, very underrated in my opinion.Originally posted by bazza76 View PostJust my opinion, but I think Milner still has great potential, isn't he still playing for England U21's
He's been unlucky in that he has moved around a lot during his short career so far.
He has the potential to be a really good winger still, obviously not as good as Fabregas or Rooney, but not many are.A humble guy with healthy desire.
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Must admit, this thread would have been much better without all the intended funnies.
I can't see why people get upset at others for tring to find out what they can about any new signing. To then hijack a thread and take the piss out of those viewing/using it for its intended purpose is frankly rude. Surprised no mods intervened actually."that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011
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I agree billob. Disgusting if you ask meOriginally posted by BillobShaisley View PostMust admit, this thread would have been much better without all the intended funnies.
I can't see why people get upset at others for tring to find out what they can about any new signing. To then hijack a thread and take the piss out of those viewing/using it for its intended purpose is frankly rude. Surprised no mods intervened actually.
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Milner would be a good addition to our squad, if you ask me. Needs good guidance, but has the talent to become an excellent player.Originally posted by The Erectile Banana View PostMilner is a good player, very underrated in my opinion.
He's been unlucky in that he has moved around a lot during his short career so far.
He has the potential to be a really good winger still, obviously not as good as Fabregas or Rooney, but not many are.James Philip Milner Fanclub #1
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Originally posted by Cacodemon View PostMilner would be a good addition to our squad, if you ask me. Needs good guidance, but has the talent to become an excellent player.
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