Right, so these match winners i've been banging on about...

[carlton]

IMO we need a quality striker like Villa unless Kuyt comes good and a pacy creative winger. Quaresma has the ability to produce that something out of nothing you need to unpick sides who play 9 behind the ball but i wonder if he could hack the physical side of the EPL? The ability to cope with the pyhsical side of the game is something I thought it would take Torres a while to adapt to-but he has proved that he is world class. I wonder if Paul Anderson is worth a punt on the wing if his form holds?

[Tinkerbitch]

We'd all love to have more of the type of match winning players you describe in the team. Unfortunayely they don't come fully formed with a label saying "match winner- buy me",so it's a gamble and you have to buy potential knowing that very very few will grow into the type of player you describe. It's not like you can casually drop into the match winners shop and buy in bulk or do a buy 1 get one free deal is it?

[Red_hot]

We'd all love to have more of the type of match winning players you describe in the team. Unfortunayely they don't come fully formed with a label saying "match winner- buy me",so it's a gamble and you have to buy potential knowing that very very few will grow into the type of player you describe. It's not like you can casually drop into the match winners shop and buy in bulk or do a buy 1 get one free deal is it?

[einar]

Why are people sugusting SWP or joe cole, we should be looking at players like Quaresma, people with genuine talent. Not just a good premiership player.

IMO SWP would be a far better choice then Quaresma.

He is probably quicker and faster. His touch and dribbling is just as good if not better. Saun works harder and is not a primadonna. The only thing Quaresma has on Phillips is he is taller, stronger. Now that Morinho is gone we are seeing the good old Wright-Phillips coming back.

IMO SWP would almost be a perfect RW for the Liverpool of Rafa.

[Craig_H]

We'd all love to have more of the type of match winning players you describe in the team. Unfortunayely they don't come fully formed with a label saying "match winner- buy me",so it's a gamble and you have to buy potential knowing that very very few will grow into the type of player you describe. It's not like you can casually drop into the match winners shop and buy in bulk or do a buy 1 get one free deal is it?

I dont personally think it takes a genius to look at certain players and know that they're top class.

[Craig_H]

:bird:

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Thank God rafa's secretary got DJS's "please buy matchwinners" fax to Rafa, we would obviously be staring relegation in the face and a 1st round FA Cup exit were it not for DJS's flash of inspiration.

[Fiddy]

We'd all love to have more of the type of match winning players you describe in the team. Unfortunayely they don't come fully formed with a label saying "match winner- buy me",so it's a gamble and you have to buy potential knowing that very very few will grow into the type of player you describe. It's not like you can casually drop into the match winners shop and buy in bulk or do a buy 1 get one free deal is it?

Exactly...and are we talking about 'match winners' here or just players who cost ****loads of money? Because most of the players being mentioned so far on this thread (like Stevie, Fernando, Fabregas, Rooney, Ronaldo) would all cost over £25m...and I don't think there's any team in the world that has more than two or max three players rated in that price range.

But if you're talking about 'match winners' who can win you a game with one moment of skill (a la King Luis), well we've already got another one in Benayoun and you could add to that a fully fit Kewell, so it's not as if we're solely reliant on Stevie or Fernando, they're just obviously world class players and any team would miss not having them in the team

[Morten_nogamst_Pedersen]

Exactly...and are we talking about 'match winners' here or just players who cost ****loads of money? Because most of the players being mentioned so far on this thread (like Stevie, Fernando, Fabregas, Rooney, Ronaldo) would all cost over £25m...and I don't think there's any team in the world that has more than two or max three players rated in that price range.

But if you're talking about 'match winners' who can win you a game with one moment of skill (a la King Luis), well we've already got another one in Benayoun and you could add to that a fully fit Kewell, so it's not as if we're solely reliant on Stevie or Fernando, they're just obviously world class players and any team would miss not having them in the team

Mancs got 3 if not 4 of them. ronaldo, roony, tevez and to a certain degree giggs.

[Craig_H]

Thank God rafa's secretary got DJS's "please buy matchwinners" fax to Rafa, we would obviously be staring relegation in the face and a 1st round FA Cup exit were it not for DJS's flash of inspiration.

I bet it gives your life a little meaning, doesnt it? To be able to have a cyber pop at me

You erroneous cretin.

[Guest]

Mancs got 3 if not 4 of them. ronaldo, roony, tevez and to a certain degree giggs.

Stevie, Alonso, Kewell, Torres, Benayoun, Babel and probably Lucas if you take into consideration what he did in the derby.

[Craig_H]

Exactly...and are we talking about 'match winners' here or just players who cost ****loads of money? Because most of the players being mentioned so far on this thread (like Stevie, Fernando, Fabregas, Rooney, Ronaldo) would all cost over £25m...and I don't think there's any team in the world that has more than two or max three players rated in that price range.

But if you're talking about 'match winners' who can win you a game with one moment of skill (a la King Luis), well we've already got another one in Benayoun and you could add to that a fully fit Kewell, so it's not as if we're solely reliant on Stevie or Fernando, they're just obviously world class players and any team would miss not having them in the team

I'm talking about world class, consistent matchwinners.

And yes, most teams dont tend to have more than 2 or 3 perhaps. Likewise though, the managers of most teams dont decide to randomly leave them out, either.

[Craig_H]

Mancs got 3 if not 4 of them. ronaldo, roony, tevez and to a certain degree giggs.

Giggs is nowhere near to being a consistent world class matchwinner anymore. Neither is Scholes.

They have 3, i would say.

[Craig_H]

Stevie, Alonso, Kewell, Torres, Benayoun, Babel and probably Lucas if you take into consideration what he did in the derby.

[Guest]

So for you Giggs and Scholes aren't match winners and you dismiss my choices ?

Clearly, it's really impossible having a sensible discussion with you.