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Why I hope Rafa resigns soon
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Nice sentiments but if Rafa is forced out at the very least I want him to walk away with a nice wad of cash for being ****ed around. £6mli in his pocket and he'll be secure for life. I think that's the least these Yanks owe him for the way they've treated him."My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.
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Mother****ers. If they are, they should be hung, drawn & quartered. What the **** is it with Parry FFS?Originally posted by Pacman View PostWell we will agree to disagree.
Normally I'm not a knee jerk guy I don't believe what I read in the press however on this occasion I firmly believe that those 3 cunts want him out.3rd place. Worst champions ever.
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The issue from the Yanks side seems fairly straightforward - they've coughed up a pile of cash for the likes of Torres, they're about to shell out a shed loads more on the new stadium and they're reluctant to come up with more until they know whether we're in the knock out stages of the CL.
As for Rafa - he obviously just wants more cash to build the team.
Its a good old fashioned budgeting argument that every manager (not just every football manager) has with their boss and finance guys every budget time.
Frankly Rafa should know better than to take the argument public and the Yanks should know better than to take offence at a pushy manager who frankly is only in his job because he's pushy.
No-one comes out well - they should all just put it behind them and move on for the good of the club.
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Obviously they could've backed the manager straight away, but I understand why they didn't.Originally posted by Elvis View PostYou don't partly blame the owners? Are you on their payroll?
Nobody is absolved from blame on this one. Everyone's acted like a **** on this one.I hate Polanski
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It's a very hackneyed phrase but pot, kettle, black anyone?!!Originally posted by fredo View Post
I've read many of Niall's post and I can fairly say that he's not the most sensible poster in here.
"the correct decision would have been a penalty for us a red card for Gattuso and a yellow for Stevie"
LF Clove aka AFII 11/10/07
"i personally hold you and several other gob****es responsible for the chaos this club is in"
Revo on DJS
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You sound like someone saying 'it's not you, it's me'...I'm still scratching my head to understand that post, if you want Rafa out just say it, don't beat around the bush and dress it up as being 'for the best', cos it plainly ****ing isn't. 2 CL finals, winning one, that classic FA Cup, unbeaten in the league, and at times playing the best football we have in years. The good times are back and better are just within reach. A few quotes in the press and some hysterical speculation and you want to throw all that awayOriginally posted by Sir Bob View PostI hope Rafa falls on his sword in the near future.
Don't get me wrong, I love him as our manager. Sure he frustrates me at times what with his rotatation, his baffling substitutions and his over relaince on the Spanish market. But he's a top class manager, as good as any around in my book.
So why do I hope he resigns. Well I think his days at LFC are numbered. I think his rift with H&G/Parry is past the point of repair. He's a dead manager walking in my view, and he deseves so much better than that.
He deserves better than being reduced to making his point in bizarre press conferences. He deserves more than being forced to wear a track suit on the touchline to make his point. He deserves more than being reduced until mid December to find out if he stays or if he goes. He deserves more than the public dressing down from Hicks, sitting smugly 6000 miles away deciding that Rafa has overstepped his authority by sorting out transfer himself. Instaed of asking why he has resorted to this they castigate him like a headteacher berating an errant pupil. Rafa loves LFC far more than Hicks ever will, or ever could.
At the moment Rafa must feel like he's on death row, waiting for the deadly phonecall from America which will end his reign. He knows like we do that they are merely waiting for the excuse to sack him. It might be tomorrow if we don't beat Porto. Or next week if we don't beat Marseille. Or the week after if we don't beat Man U. They've got Rafa were they want him, like a cat toying with the mouse its caught, knowing that at any time the cat can kill the mouse. The mouse trying to cling on to life but at the cats mercy.
Even if Rafa does survive, he's been severely weakened. They've got him by the balls, H&G know it, Rafa knows it and we know it. One of the things that makes Rafa the great manager he is, is the fight of the man. He'll take on anybody if he believes he's right. He'll do it his way with an unshakable belief in his own ability. Give him the power and he'll deliver the goods. But thats gone now at LFC. He'll never have the control he craves and needs to make LFC the no.1 power at home & abroad. To do that he needs to control everything at LFC and that will never happen now. He'll always ahve one eye and ear on the USA. What will G&H do if I do this or that. Can I say this or will they sack me. He's fatally wounded at LFC now, no matter what happens.
So Rafa, leave on your own terms, leave with your dignity in tact. Don't let them 2 bit yanks decide when times up, don't give them that satisfaction. Walk out of the Anfiled via the front gates, not the side door. Don't accept their blood money to keep stum, tell us what really happened, you and we deserve that.
Rafa's an all time great LFC manager, he deserves to go with respect and thanks not at the whim of power/money hungry yanks who don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as him.
Thats why I hope Rafa falls on his sword and does it soon.
LFC RIP.
"the correct decision would have been a penalty for us a red card for Gattuso and a yellow for Stevie"
LF Clove aka AFII 11/10/07
"i personally hold you and several other gob****es responsible for the chaos this club is in"
Revo on DJS
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Originally posted by redlancer View Post

has anyone any facts as to what if anything is going on?
The players didn't look like have any great worries on thier minds in fact they seemed happier than normal
talks of protests, say the yanks do want Rafa out a protest not only wouldn't work it would only make things worse.
a - they're hardly likley to say OK let him stay as behind the scences things would be bad.
b - they're hardly likley to sell as they'd loose millions
c - if they do get rid then the frenzzy of it all would but the new man with a load of problems to overcome.
we'd all look like the mancs and chavs.
us the fans will have no say in what if anything is going on this is a multi billion buisness these days.Originally posted by sonsofthedesert View Post
In most ways I agree. We wouldn't look like the scum and chavs if it is done right. If the whole point is anti G&H like the papers are trying to say it coul do Rafa more harm than good as they would see it as Rafa turning the fans against them. If it is all about supporting Rafa then it will mostly do good.
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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Originally posted by Fiddy View PostYou sound like someone saying 'it's not you, it's me'...I'm still scratching my head to understand that post, if you want Rafa out just say it, don't beat around the bush and dress it up as being 'for the best', cos it plainly ****ing isn't. 2 CL finals, winning one, that classic FA Cup, unbeaten in the league, and at times playing the best football we have in years. The good times are back and better are just within reach. A few quotes in the press and some hysterical speculation and you want to throw all that away
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Sorry but there is no proof that they have paid a single pound from there own pockets.Originally posted by GypsyRed View PostThe issue from the Yanks side seems fairly straightforward - they've coughed up a pile of cash for the likes of Torres, they're about to shell out a shed loads more on the new stadium and they're reluctant to come up with more until they know whether we're in the knock out stages of the CL.
As for Rafa - he obviously just wants more cash to build the team.
Its a good old fashioned budgeting argument that every manager (not just every football manager) has with their boss and finance guys every budget time.
Frankly Rafa should know better than to take the argument public and the Yanks should know better than to take offence at a pushy manager who frankly is only in his job because he's pushy.
No-one comes out well - they should all just put it behind them and move on for the good of the club.
They will allegedly take a loan against the club to finance the new stadium and probably also put the loan they bought the club for in the same place.
The money we bought the players for this summer was probably already there from our CL run last season and the new TV deal.Just believe and you never know what will happen.
According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.
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