Why I hope Rafa resigns soon

[carrsim]

I hope Rafa falls on his sword in the near future.

Don't get me wrong, I love him as our manager. Sure he frustrates me at times what with his rotatation, his baffling substitutions and his over relaince on the Spanish market. But he's a top class manager, as good as any around in my book.

So why do I hope he resigns. Well I think his days at LFC are numbered. I think his rift with H&G/Parry is past the point of repair. He's a dead manager walking in my view, and he deseves so much better than that.

He deserves better than being reduced to making his point in bizarre press conferences. He deserves more than being forced to wear a track suit on the touchline to make his point. He deserves more than being reduced until mid December to find out if he stays or if he goes. He deserves more than the public dressing down from Hicks, sitting smugly 6000 miles away deciding that Rafa has overstepped his authority by sorting out transfer himself. Instaed of asking why he has resorted to this they castigate him like a headteacher berating an errant pupil. Rafa loves LFC far more than Hicks ever will, or ever could.

At the moment Rafa must feel like he's on death row, waiting for the deadly phonecall from America which will end his reign. He knows like we do that they are merely waiting for the excuse to sack him. It might be tomorrow if we don't beat Porto. Or next week if we don't beat Marseille. Or the week after if we don't beat Man U. They've got Rafa were they want him, like a cat toying with the mouse its caught, knowing that at any time the cat can kill the mouse. The mouse trying to cling on to life but at the cats mercy.

Even if Rafa does survive, he's been severely weakened. They've got him by the balls, H&G know it, Rafa knows it and we know it. One of the things that makes Rafa the great manager he is, is the fight of the man. He'll take on anybody if he believes he's right. He'll do it his way with an unshakable belief in his own ability. Give him the power and he'll deliver the goods. But thats gone now at LFC. He'll never have the control he craves and needs to make LFC the no.1 power at home & abroad. To do that he needs to control everything at LFC and that will never happen now. He'll always ahve one eye and ear on the USA. What will G&H do if I do this or that. Can I say this or will they sack me. He's fatally wounded at LFC now, no matter what happens.

So Rafa, leave on your own terms, leave with your dignity in tact. Don't let them 2 bit yanks decide when times up, don't give them that satisfaction. Walk out of the Anfiled via the front gates, not the side door. Don't accept their blood money to keep stum, tell us what really happened, you and we deserve that.

Rafa's an all time great LFC manager, he deserves to go with respect and thanks not at the whim of power/money hungry yanks who don't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as him.

Thats why I hope Rafa falls on his sword and does it soon.

LFC RIP.

i have to disagree mate. i can't be bothered to go into all the reasons. But I am an optimistic person and I think that this will be the galvanising incident that fires this squad to glory.

The one thing that I've seen that even the fans who were starting to question Rafa's methods (wrongly imo) are now from what i can see firmly back behind him. I think it will force/demand/inspire the anfield crowd to get behind the team. and we all know what our lads can do with the anfield roar bellowing down.

oh, and 1 last thing. read my signature. football hasn't changed that much after all

[Guest]

Stevie was very close to leaving - it was on a knife edge. I really hope that Rafa is not as close as Stevie got, because it would be a terrible step backward for our team. Despite your mockery of those who are concerned, obviously from these words you are acknowledging that there is reason for it.

Rafa doesn't want to leave. There's an article in the Times today about that. All the problems, in my opinion, stem from the fact that his job has been redefined in a way and that he should be 'coaching' and Parry should be responsible for transfers.

For me, it all comes down to backing down on their promises. Rafa has too much power and they want to cut down that control. They should **** off.

[MARTINOZ]

Surely if it was "inevitable", they'd have sacked him already, or am I missing something in the mass hysteria?

Or perhaps they haven't sacked him because he's doing a good job, and they never had any plans to give him his p45.

Couldn't agree more mate - it all came about because Rafa thought he could squeeze them for some cash for transfers and they just stood up and showed him that they are not going to be played like that in public. That's why he's backed down - realising he was in the wrong - and everyone else has jumped on it like hyenas. It's bull**** - and we as fans shouldn't be listening to it. I am dumbfounded as to why everyone is listtening to the press .

[Guest]

Couldn't agree more mate - it all came about because Rafa thought he could squeeze them for some cash for transfers and they just stood up and showed him that they are not going to be played like that in public. That's why he's backed down - realising he was in the wrong - and everyone else has jumped on it like hyenas. It's bull**** - and we as fans shouldn't be listening to it. I am dumbfounded as to why everyone is listtening to the press .

Mate, you think all the press are bull****ting us ??? Some serious newspapers such as The Guardian and The Times are running with the same story that there's been a breakdown in relation between the owners and Rafa and that he's in a precarious position.

It's clear there's something really wrong. It's not being pessimistic at all. It's just the sad state of affairs that we're in currently.

I normally take everything with a pinch of salt, but this one has an air of inevitability about it, unless we fans turn it over.

[Guest]

Surely if it was "inevitable", they'd have sacked him already, or am I missing something in the mass hysteria?

Or perhaps they haven't sacked him because he's doing a good job, and they never had any plans to give him his p45.

They can't sack him like that. You don't sack your employee and certainly not the manager of Liverpool when he airs his grievances in public, this has got no relevance at all. It's a football club FFS, and Rafa is a football man, not a politician.

If he's been cornered and promised things which they're trying to back down on, he's entitled to go at them. They can own this club, but at the end of the day, they will be nothing if they have the fans against them.

If they're turning this club into a Spurs or Newcastle, and take down all it's great heritage and do things their way, I'll seriously consider in turning my back to it.

Those values should be preserved, and that's why Rafa's gone public, because he felt they were lying to us. It's clear and simple for me, I've made my mind up on it. Their job should be getting the maximum amount of revenue to benefit future team building, not their pockets.

It's what Arsenal have been doing successfully. I think the club is at a turning point.

[Chrono]

****in hell.

Why do most believe that the "situation" - if there still is one, and that there was even one in the first place - will lead to him being sacked?

It's all speculation, third hand rumours and professional bull****ters spouting off.

And it saddens me that the majority seem to have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

It's gotten to the point where people are starting up petitions FFS. Am I the only one embarrassed by this?

Just think, if Rafa hadn't been so candid in his press conference none of us would've had any idea this was going on.

I'm sure disagreements have taken place before between the hierarchy, it's just that this time it's been conducted in public.

Yet instead of treating it for what it was, a disagreement in club policy, we've been subjected to professional pessimists from all sides determined to make a mountain out of molehill.

And right during a crucial period for the club on the pitch.

I partly blame Rafa, I partly blame the media, and I partly blame the panic merchants who should get a life. You all need to have a word with yourselves.

Roll on Porto, and roll them over Redmen.

Mate I couldn't agree more. This place is more loony than KT and it is embarassing to the extreme. A petition FFS!

[Guest]

Mate I couldn't agree more. This place is more loony than KT and it is embarassing to the extreme. A petition FFS!

You're in the minority though. While most of us will be cheering for Rafa and trying to save the club, you'll all be 'hoping' that there's nothing in these stories.

[Chrono]

You're in the minority though. While most of us will be cheering for Rafa and trying to save the club, you'll all be 'hoping' that there's nothing in these stories.

Not at all. I'm just seeing the situation for what I know about it rather than reacting to media storm and internet rumours. Do you think emailing the papers and having a petition are a good thing?

I cheer for Rafa regardless of what the current in-house turmoil is

[Chrono]

You're in the minority though. While most of us will be cheering for Rafa and trying to save the club, you'll all be 'hoping' that there's nothing in these stories.

On another point, what are you saving the club from exacty? A new stadium? The best striker we have had since Robbie? Millions of pounds spent on potential (Lucas and Babel)

Perhaps the yanks have done actually nothing wrong and are irrate by our manager acting like a baby in a press conference. I love Rafa but he stoked this and has continued to do so ever since he arrived with us. He has yet to NOT recieve backing and in all honesty I have no reason to believe G&H would not allow Rafa to at least offload a few players to get a minimum defensive cover in. They can't act now anyway as the window is shut, if they fail in January they I will re-assess my position on this.

[Guest]

Not at all. I'm just seeing the situation for what I know about it rather than reacting to media storm and internet rumours. Do you think emailing the papers and having a petition are a good thing?

I cheer for Rafa regardless of what the current in-house turmoil is

In general, the media has been fed stories. Do you think there are that much incompetent journos in the press ??? There has to be some element of truth and all point to the fact that Rafa's threading a fine line for challenging them.

May I refer you to a famous quote by none other than Bill Shankly ?

At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.

[Chrono]

In general, the media has been fed stories. Do you think there are that much incompetent journos in the press ??? There has to be some element of truth and all point to the fact that Rafa's threading a fine line for challenging them.

May I refer you to a famous quote by none other than Bill Shankly ?

1) I can believe it 2)Sensationlism sells newspapers, the truth doesn't and suggesting there is an "element of truth" in it is not enough for me to lose any sleep over this let alone start petitioning. I'm going to try and save some post from this time period and post them up again on the 1st of Feb.

[Guest]

1) I can believe it 2)Sensationlism sells newspapers, the truth doesn't and suggesting there is an "element of truth" in it is not enough for me to lose any sleep over this let alone start petitioning. I'm going to try and save some post from this time period and post them up again on the 1st of Feb.

Well, better be prudent and start something before it's too late than do nothing.

Watch Rafa's 3 last Press Conferences and have your own opinion.

[Chrono]

Well, better be prudent and start something before it's too late than do nothing.

Watch Rafa's 3 last Press Conferences and have your own opinion.

Complete disagree on your first point as these reactions are making things worse and I don't think it wise to draw battle lines this early.

Seen them and have formed my own opinion which I'm expressing here. Rafa was behaving like a baby.

[cannotmakeit]

If we win the league this year, how can (dare) they sack him? But then again Rafa might walk, going out on top.

[Guest]

Complete disagree on your first point as these reactions are making things worse and I don't think it wise to draw battle lines this early.

Seen them and have formed my own opinion which I'm expressing here. Rafa was behaving like a baby.

Stop wingeing.

He's entitled to it as he's the General Manager of Liverpool FC. Team affairs are his sole responsibility and he's clearly been lied to. He's honest, but he's brought the majority of the fans behind him.