New stadium update...

[IrishPaul]

I like it and it's about time we had some good news. Let's stop all this "Yanks Out" bollocks now and start supporting the club regardless of who owns it...

Amen to that brother!

[IrishPaul]

They have?
I`ve just seen Hicks say he could do it, not that he have or would.
if they pay up for Mascher they`ve done OK moneywise.
There is debt on the club, but that was to be expected.
The rafa thing was handled very badly, but Rafa has to take some of the blame as well.
I`m not happy with the owners, but I`m feeling a little better now.
DIC has more money, but remember that there was serious doubts about them as well.

Well said...

Aye

[tomasjj]

So, basically, since they ballsed up and couldn't afford the first design they paraded with much bravado, now when the new one looking almost similar is released, meaning a further year delay on the finishing date and the revenue to follow, we should be happy?

[Pacman]

So, basically, since they ballsed up and couldn't afford the first design they paraded with much bravado, now when the new one looking almost similar is released, meaning a further year delay on the finishing date and the revenue to follow, we should be happy?

No

Plus it wont get built anyway.

However if by a small miracle it does get built LFC will be in debt by nearly half a billion quid. That makes me over the moon what a fine pair Hicks and Gillett are.

[Vermilion]

So, basically, since they ballsed up and couldn't afford the first design they paraded with much bravado, now when the new one looking almost similar is released, meaning a further year delay on the finishing date and the revenue to follow, we should be happy?

Lots on here seem to be, i feel sick myself how easy it's been for H&G to suddenly have FANS now saying 'Lets stop this Yank Bashing, support the club,' I'VE NEVER STOPPED SUPPORTING THE CLUB. But they dont win me over or stop MY fight to get them out.

[shanks69]

They have?
I`ve just seen Hicks say he could do it, not that he have or would.
if they pay up for Mascher they`ve done OK moneywise.
There is debt on the club, but that was to be expected.
The rafa thing was handled very badly, but Rafa has to take some of the blame as well.
I`m not happy with the owners, but I`m feeling a little better now.
DIC has more money, but remember that there was serious doubts about them as well.

i agree with alot of what you say.i'm not a big fan of the yanks myself and if i had a choice i would probably go with DIC.but unlike some idiots here i can relise that whoever takes over by,they will take loans out against the club and stadium.also we must remember rafa isn't blameless in some of the poor pr liverpool have done this season,it was rafa who brought the behind the scenes mess to the public attention first.

[bazza76]

****in DEADLY serious, Standing alone is'nt the way to judge it, Compare it to the TRULY iconic & magnificent designs around, i think nearly ALL the stadia the Jap's designed for the world cup were better & far more imaginative, The METAL cladding made this stadium what it was, now it looks cheap, a bigger different shaped version of all the cheap stadia out there. That's my opinion, you can get excited if yoyu want, & i'm glad for you honestly, but it does nothing for me. Sorry.

Have you got an idea as to what materials exactly they will be cladding the new stadium in mate?.

[Rich]

No

Plus it wont get built anyway.

However if by a small miracle it does get built LFC will be in debt by nearly half a billion quid. That makes me over the moon what a fine pair Hicks and Gillett are.

Can you let me know another way we can build a £300m+ stadium without the club paying for it?

People really should separate the stadium and it's costs with the LIES regarding placing the purchasing of the club onto the clubs books. There is a HUGE difference.

[sonsofthedesert]

Can you let me know another way we can build a £300m+ stadium without the club paying for it?

People really should separate the stadium and it's costs with the LIES regarding placing the purchasing of the club onto the clubs books. There is a HUGE difference.

The amazing thing now is that it looks like Parry has stopped them from putting the purchase debt onto the club, if stories are to be believed.

[Dero]

Good, we won't need new ones then

That will save us a couple o quid then, lets put that towards signing Masch.

[bigfooty]

Can you let me know another way we can build a £300m+ stadium without the club paying for it?

That's not the issue. The issue is that such a loan combined with this "re-financing" will represent a crushing debt that the club will probably crumble under the weight of.

[Vermilion]

Have you got an idea as to what materials exactly they will be cladding the new stadium in mate?.

It certainly wont be the EYE CATCHING steel that the design initially had, It will most likely be the same stuff on Warehouses & similar developments where looks dont matter.

[Rich]

That's not the issue. The issue is that such a loan combined with this "re-financing" will represent a crushing debt that the club will probably crumble under the weight of.

It's the issue raised by many people on here - as far as I know - we can't wave a magic wand and hey presto a new 70,000 seater stadium is built. It needs to be paid for, and the club has to pay for it. So the club is going to be saddled with a huge debt. Get used to it, it HAS to happen, otherwise we have to stay in the current stadium.

What is wrong is where H&G have tried (or succeeded) into placing the loan they took out to purchase the club onto the clubs books. They said they wouldn't - I believe they've lied.

[homer1]

Can you let me know another way we can build a £300m+ stadium without the club paying for it?

People really should separate the stadium and it's costs with the LIES regarding placing the purchasing of the club onto the clubs books. There is a HUGE difference.

I think that sums up my feelings perfectly

I don't have a massive problem in theory with the club being in debt to pay for the stadium so long as it doesn't have a drastic effect on our transfer needs - the Scum have done that and it hasn't effected them in the slightest

I do have a problem with G&T announcing smugly that they wouldn't follow suit, getting the fans onside as a result and then going back on their words

[calvoboy]

Did notice that Matt, looks a bit sloppy though & wondered why they would leave it blank - must be a reason for this??

Suppose we'll have to wait until we get a detailed press release (not from Dot Cotton obviously)

So that you can still see the game while you are queueing to spend a fortune at half time? Wheelchair section?