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    Gillett and Rafa Benitez to meet in France(telegraph)

    Gillett and Rafa Benitez to meet in France
    By Ben Lyttleton

    George Gillett is expected to fly in to witness Liverpool's night of European destiny in Marseille on Tuesday.

    The Anfield club's co-owner has made a surprise decision to be at the Stade Velodrome to see for himself whether Liverpool can pull off the great escape and reach the last 16 of the Champions League.

    Gillett and Tom Hicks were not expected on this side of the Atlantic until later in the week for their much-heralded meeting with manager Rafael Benitez, after the fall-out over the new American owners' transfer policy. The pair were due to be on Merseyside at the weekend for the Premier League clash with Manchester United, but Gillett will now have the chance for a low-key chat with Benitez in France first.

    Gillett will hope to witness Liverpool's third successive group win, which will ensure a remarkable qualification for the knock-out stages few expected after the Reds' dreadful start to the campaign.

    Meanwhile, two Marseille players will be welcoming their former club. After the appointment of Eric Gerets as coach and his decision to settle on the 4-2-3-1 formation that beat Liverpool at the start of this tournament, Bolo Zenden has won his place back in the side while Djibril Cisse, once Liverpool's record signing, has been demoted to a substitute.

    Zenden has rewarded the new-found faith in him with a series of consistent performances and a few goals. "I didn't understand exactly why I was left out by Albert Emon, but I never had an explanation of what was supposed to be missing from my game," the Dutch winger said. "But when the new coach came in, it was like we started over. We worked differently in training and had a new outlook. We've been working hard on intensity, discipline, concentration, and to create a team sprit."

    Gerets has preferred Mamadou Niang as the lone front-man over Cisse, a decision justified by the Senegal forward's six goals in five league games. Marseille went through November unbeaten, and surprisingly won away at leaders Lyon. Indeed, Marseille's last league defeat came when Cisse, who has not scored in nine matches, came off the bench against Sochaux and struck a late penalty straight at the goalkeeper in a 2-1 defeat.

    "I'm preoccupied by the Cisse situation simply because in the eyes of the supporters, a goalscorer is only worth the number of goals he scores," admitted Marseille president Pape Diouf. "Even if he's improving, when Djibril doesn't score, he gives the impression of being unproductive. He deserves a bit more indulgence even if his recent matches have not met with expectations."

    Cisse's France team-mate, Philippe Mexes, said he made a mistake in leaving England so soon, while former international Jean-Michel Larque, now France's top TV pundit, suggested that his two broken legs had ruined what were his strengths. "His power, strength and speed are not what they once were, so he needs to change his game."

    Cisse has conceded that Niang is in better form. He has delayed an operation to take metal plates out of both legs until the summer because he wants to remain available. He has also been linked with a move to Lens in January.

    Marseille's defence still looks shaky and they may be only two points away from Ligue One's relegation zone, but they have become harder to beat under Gerets. Zenden said: "We might not be able to rotate our squad like Liverpool, but we've rediscovered our confidence since the new coach arrived."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfnliv109.xml
    Just believe and you never know what will happen.

    According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

    #2
    Originally posted by AFII View Post
    Gillett and Rafa Benitez to meet in France
    By Ben Lyttleton

    George Gillett is expected to fly in to witness Liverpool's night of European destiny in Marseille on Tuesday.

    The Anfield club's co-owner has made a surprise decision to be at the Stade Velodrome to see for himself whether Liverpool can pull off the great escape and reach the last 16 of the Champions League.

    Gillett and Tom Hicks were not expected on this side of the Atlantic until later in the week for their much-heralded meeting with manager Rafael Benitez, after the fall-out over the new American owners' transfer policy. The pair were due to be on Merseyside at the weekend for the Premier League clash with Manchester United, but Gillett will now have the chance for a low-key chat with Benitez in France first.

    Gillett will hope to witness Liverpool's third successive group win, which will ensure a remarkable qualification for the knock-out stages few expected after the Reds' dreadful start to the campaign.

    Meanwhile, two Marseille players will be welcoming their former club. After the appointment of Eric Gerets as coach and his decision to settle on the 4-2-3-1 formation that beat Liverpool at the start of this tournament, Bolo Zenden has won his place back in the side while Djibril Cisse, once Liverpool's record signing, has been demoted to a substitute.

    Zenden has rewarded the new-found faith in him with a series of consistent performances and a few goals. "I didn't understand exactly why I was left out by Albert Emon, but I never had an explanation of what was supposed to be missing from my game," the Dutch winger said. "But when the new coach came in, it was like we started over. We worked differently in training and had a new outlook. We've been working hard on intensity, discipline, concentration, and to create a team sprit."

    Gerets has preferred Mamadou Niang as the lone front-man over Cisse, a decision justified by the Senegal forward's six goals in five league games. Marseille went through November unbeaten, and surprisingly won away at leaders Lyon. Indeed, Marseille's last league defeat came when Cisse, who has not scored in nine matches, came off the bench against Sochaux and struck a late penalty straight at the goalkeeper in a 2-1 defeat.

    "I'm preoccupied by the Cisse situation simply because in the eyes of the supporters, a goalscorer is only worth the number of goals he scores," admitted Marseille president Pape Diouf. "Even if he's improving, when Djibril doesn't score, he gives the impression of being unproductive. He deserves a bit more indulgence even if his recent matches have not met with expectations."

    Cisse's France team-mate, Philippe Mexes, said he made a mistake in leaving England so soon, while former international Jean-Michel Larque, now France's top TV pundit, suggested that his two broken legs had ruined what were his strengths. "His power, strength and speed are not what they once were, so he needs to change his game."

    Cisse has conceded that Niang is in better form. He has delayed an operation to take metal plates out of both legs until the summer because he wants to remain available. He has also been linked with a move to Lens in January.

    Marseille's defence still looks shaky and they may be only two points away from Ligue One's relegation zone, but they have become harder to beat under Gerets. Zenden said: "We might not be able to rotate our squad like Liverpool, but we've rediscovered our confidence since the new coach arrived."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfnliv109.xml
    Interesting.

    Could this have anything to do with Rafa's decision to substitute all our keys players today?

    As well as our transfer budget and European season being at stake on Tuesday, our owner being their to witness events will only heap more pressure onto Benitez's shoulders.

    In addition, we all know what a great strategist Benitez is. Is it possible he elected to give Hobbs his full debut today because:

    a.) If we won, it would have been valuable experience and proof he was ready?

    or

    b.) If we lost, it would underline Benitez's point that we need to strengthen at the back and that H&G should fork out afterall?

    Either way, it's a win-win situation.

    Just thinking out loud...
    Last edited by Alpha; 09-12-07, 03:10 AM.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Alpha View Post
      Interesting.

      Could this have anything to do with Rafa's decision to substitute all our keys players today?

      As well as our transfer budget and European season being at stake on Tuesday, our owner being their to witness events will only heap more pressure onto Benitez's shoulders.

      In addition, we all know what a great strategist Benitez is. Is it possible he elected to give Hobbs his full debut today because:

      a.) If we won, it would have been valuable experience and proof he was ready?

      or

      b.) If we lost, it would underline Benitez's point that we need to strengthen at the back and that H&G should fork out afterall?

      Just thinking out loud...

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        #4
        Originally posted by Alpha View Post
        Interesting.

        Could this have anything to do with Rafa's decision to substitute all our keys players today?

        As well as our transfer budget and European season being at stake on Tuesday, our owner being their to witness events will only heap more pressure onto Benitez's shoulders.

        In addition, we all know what a great strategist Benitez is. Is it possible he elected to give Hobbs his full debut today because:

        a.) If we won, it would have been valuable experience and proof he was ready?

        or

        b.) If we lost, it would underline Benitez's point that we need to strengthen at the back and that H&G should fork out afterall?

        Just thinking out loud...
        Yes. I feel that the main reason we lost today was because that the team/manager had one eye on the midweek match.
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          #5
          It has seemed Gillett is the more level-headed of the two, hopefully he and rafa can see eye to eye
          "These stories have as much relation to the truth as an egg to a chestnut." - Racing Santander President Francisco Pernia

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            #6
            If G&H have told Rafa that his January transfer budget depends on us qualifying for the last 16 then he more or less didn't have any choice than to play with a "b-team" against Reading.
            Just believe and you never know what will happen.

            According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Jazzmaster View Post
              Yes. I feel that the main reason we lost today was because that the team/manager had one eye on the midweek match.
              to be fair, a loss to reading in the league in december is recoverable (i'd love another run of 8 1-0 wins myself)

              however, anything but a win on tuesday could even be curtains for rafa so of the 2 the result he needs more is in france.

              despite all the talk of tactics/selection, too many of our players failed to perform and you just have to put it down to a bad day all round
              "At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques"

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                #8
                Originally posted by carrsim View Post
                to be fair, a loss to reading in the league in december is recoverable (i'd love another run of 8 1-0 wins myself)

                however, anything but a win on tuesday could even be curtains for rafa so of the 2 the result he needs more is in france.

                despite all the talk of tactics/selection, too many of our players failed to perform and you just have to put it down to a bad day all round


                If we lose against Marseille then all the Rafa sacking rumours will start all over again and he may get sacked this time, who knows, but it's a possibility.

                The Marseille game is probably one of Rafa's most important games for us. I can understand why he took off Torres, Stevie and Carra if you look at it that way.
                Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AFII View Post


                  If we lose against Marseille then all the Rafa sacking rumours will start all over again and he may get sacked this time, who knows, but it's a possibility.

                  The Marseille game is probably one of Rafa's most important games for us. I can understand why he took off Torres, Stevie and Carra if you look at it that way.
                  Carra was subbed as much to not get booked and miss the manc's as much as he was subbed for the midweek match.
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                    #10
                    Can't help feeling sorry for Cisse i sincerely hope he can turn his career around, theres no doubt in my mind that he loved Liverpool.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by AFII View Post


                      If we lose against Marseille then all the Rafa sacking rumours will start all over again and he may get sacked this time, who knows, but it's a possibility.
                      I thought the same AFII, Just when the stories have all died down we lose to Reading and have a make or break game against Marseille which will start the media frenzy again
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by AFII View Post
                        If G&H have told Rafa that his January transfer budget depends on us qualifying for the last 16 then he more or less didn't have any choice than to play with a "b-team" against Reading.
                        That's nonsense for a couple of reasons...

                        1) He could've played a strong enough side to win at reading, and in fact did so (notwithstanding the daft change of system).

                        2) Even if we'd played a B team (which we didnt), that doesnt really provide any guarantees of a win in France.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Alpha View Post
                          Interesting.

                          Could this have anything to do with Rafa's decision to substitute all our keys players today?

                          As well as our transfer budget and European season being at stake on Tuesday, our owner being their to witness events will only heap more pressure onto Benitez's shoulders.

                          In addition, we all know what a great strategist Benitez is. Is it possible he elected to give Hobbs his full debut today because:

                          a.) If we won, it would have been valuable experience and proof he was ready?

                          or

                          b.) If we lost, it would underline Benitez's point that we need to strengthen at the back and that H&G should fork out afterall?

                          Either way, it's a win-win situation.

                          Just thinking out loud...
                          A win-win situation eh?

                          We got beat.

                          I don't care what anyone says, Rafa ****ed up royally yesterday. Team selection, formation and substitutions were all ****e.

                          And I'm sorry but the attempt above at trying to reach an explanation is, well, a reach.

                          Let’s say you're right though, if he did pick a weakened side on the purpose of showing the owners that our so called squad isn't all that great, then he should be sacked.

                          To me that’s unprofessional behaviour, negligence even. But I don’t believe this is the case.

                          I tend to think that a misplaced hubris came over him and he underestimated Reading, and thought he could get away with playing the likes of Sissoko and Voronin, and Crouch wide left.

                          Which leads me to my next question; where are Rafa's priorities? Can anyone honestly believe that by taking off Gerrard and Torres he was prepared to fight back in yesterday’s game?

                          It couldn't have come at a worse time for us, a win yesterday would've really set us up for Tuesday. So why not play your best team yesterday, win, and keep the good run going into Tuesday?

                          Doesn’t that make sense? I need someone to explain it to me, because I just don't understand.

                          Still a win against Marseille and the inbreds and yesterday will be forgotten.
                          Last edited by CharlieMansonsSquint; 09-12-07, 04:36 PM.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint View Post
                            A win-win situation eh?

                            We got beat.


                            Agree with the rest of your post too.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by DJS View Post
                              That's nonsense for a couple of reasons...

                              1) He could've played a strong enough side to win at reading, and in fact did so (notwithstanding the daft change of system).

                              2) Even if we'd played a B team (which we didnt), that doesnt really provide any guarantees of a win in France.
                              1) He couldn't pick the best team yesterday with the Marseille and Man U games next week. If he would have played his best team with players like Kewell and Hyypia then both of them would either need to sit out the Marseille game or the Man U game.

                              If you can't understand a basic thing like that then I don't know what can make you understand basic things.

                              2) We played with Sissoko, Voronin, Hobbs and Riise. Four players that isn't part of our starting XI in the important games, so it was very much a "b-team".
                              Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                              According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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