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Paul.S
I am so ****ing happy tonight. 8 nil, 4 - 1 and 4 nil. How the **** did we not coast this group? Goes to show the importance of attacking **** teams.
We answered a lot of the forums questions tonight - Kewell is great unless he is injured, Torres is world class without question the most exciting signing we have made since John Barnes and Steven Gerrard can play CM without a doubt - he has been amazing.
It just goes to show that with a simplistic formation, with a remit to attack we can go anywhere (and Marseille is not an easy place to go) and get a result. With the same attitude we would have battered Reading last weekend.
I am well made up with how with how we are playing and the attitude of the players, Marseille needed a win tonight too so it wasn't as if the game was dead.
Special mention too for Mascherano- who was world class tonight.
no one has give you more **** than me. great post, i just wish you would post more of this stuff
"People from Liverpool have got something about them and, if they’re not happy about something, they let people know.” Jamie Carragher 15/1/2008
Its really sad that we have to escalate into the Reading game after such another a big big night in Europe. DJS + Niall, you have to let it go fellas and enjoy the moment. The league wasent lost against reading nor will it be won by beating the mancs on sunday. Look at the overall progress. summer signings are coming good there is god aura about the team. players are not getting caught up with the boardroom stuff and are concentrating on the football. the ressies went top of the league yesterday ffs.
the manager is going to have a few hiccups along the way but make no mistake about it, the masterplan is well into effect.
"People from Liverpool have got something about them and, if they’re not happy about something, they let people know.” Jamie Carragher 15/1/2008
Its really sad that we have to escalate into the Reading game after such another a big big night in Europe. DJS + Niall, you have to let it go fellas and enjoy the moment. The league wasent lost against reading nor will it be won by beating the mancs on sunday. Look at the overall progress. summer signings are coming good there is god aura about the team. players are not getting caught up with the boardroom stuff and are concentrating on the football. the ressies went top of the league yesterday ffs.
the manager is going to have a few hiccups along the way but make no mistake about it, the masterplan is well into effect.
Good post Revo
Some of our football in the last 4-6 weeks has been as good, if not better than anything I have seen for a while. Torres and Gerrard are playing up to their hyped reputations, no easy task, and Kewell has made a massive impact to the way the side plays since his return. Hopefully Harry can start adding stats to the goal colomn soon and he may just be "back".
Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24
The funny thing is, the perfectionism i sometimes have is the same as Rafa - he's a perfectionist too, when players come off, even if they've had a blinder, Rafa's there telling them where they went wrong.
I'm chuffed with tonight, it was a perfect performance away from home. Sublime in fact.
That doesnt stop me thinking about the Man Utd game and desperately wanting to win that. I want our chances to be as high as possible.
Maybe you dont.
Maybe it's good that i get to go to the games, because at least it's obvious that i'm pissed off when we lose...others seem not to be fussed...and have a go at those of us who are. Surreal.
It's just that the team that played against Reading should have won. It included Torres and Gerrard, two of our best players ... It's not that we're not fussed but it doesn't serve any purpose to delve on it when it's already done. Get over it and look to the future.
We were ****ing unbeaten in the league before that and maybe the players were too focused on that all important CL game. We won against Newcastle with the same formation.
This thread is, errrr, interesting. Primarily because Niall's managed to post so frequently in it with a negative mindframe, but has done so without ONCE mentioning Dirk Kuyt. First time this season I reckon
The Reading game was just one of those things. In hindsight, Rafa got his team and tactics a bit wrong, and the players on the pitch, who still should have been good enough, did not perform well on the day. It happens, ManU lost to Bolton the other week, and Arsenal lost to Boro, both easily as bad results as ours. People can talk about prioritising the league all they like, but what if the rumours about Rafa's future at the club depending on last nights result are actually true? Put yourself in his shoes in that senario, what would you do? In several of the earlier CL games this year he didn't play our strongest XI either, and those results also perhaps reflected that; at that time, was he prioritising the league too much?
In context of the week infront of him, the Reading game was the one to play a few squad players in and have the best chance of still winning. When it obviously just wasn't happening, withdrawing Torres and Gerrard, especially if they continue their form from tonight at the weekend, in the context of both our entire season, and Rafa's position at the club, may turn out to have been the right thing for him to do. Anyone arguing that it was a sign that Rafa is not prioritising the league enough is wrong imo, if that were really true he wouldn't have started either Gerrard or Torres last weekend. For me it was primarily a sign that the squad is not quite strong enough yet, and winning tonight may help change that in January.
Tonight we saw an proper performance. Kuyt I thought had an excellent game, combining workrate, movement and good linking with the pure class that was Torres alongside him. I'm convinced that in the system we played tonight, they are our best strike partnership currently, and I believe that the overall stats for games won and goals scored by the team this season with each combination would bear that out. Arbeloa had another supremely composed performance, and I was very impressed by Benyoun's workrate on one wing, and the shape Kewell gives us on the other. Benitez has made mistakes so far this season, who doesn't, but tonight he got it spot on, and now we've got a proper European tie in Feb with one of the other big boys to look forward to, as well as having a team that is still as well placed to mount a serious league title challenge as we've had in many a season.
Bring on ManU on Sunday, and bring on Real/Barca/AC/Inter, this season could still yet be pretty damn special.
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
This thread is, errrr, interesting. Primarily because Niall's managed to post so frequently in it with a negative mindframe, but has done so without ONCE mentioning Dirk Kuyt. First time this season I reckon
The Reading game was just one of those things. In hindsight, Rafa got his team and tactics a bit wrong, and the players on the pitch, who still should have been good enough, did not perform well on the day. It happens, ManU lost to Bolton the other week, and Arsenal lost to Boro, both easily as bad results as ours. People can talk about prioritising the league all they like, but what if the rumours about Rafa's future at the club depending on last nights result are actually true? Put yourself in his shoes in that senario, what would you do? In several of the earlier CL games this year he didn't play our strongest XI either, and those results also perhaps reflected that; at that time, was he prioritising the league too much?
In context of the week infront of him, the Reading game was the one to play a few squad players in and have the best chance of still winning. When it obviously just wasn't happening, withdrawing Torres and Gerrard, especially if they continue their form from tonight at the weekend, in the context of both our entire season, and Rafa's position at the club, may turn out to have been the right thing for him to do. Anyone arguing that it was a sign that Rafa is not prioritising the league enough is wrong imo, if that were really true he wouldn't have started either Gerrard or Torres last weekend. For me it was primarily a sign that the squad is not quite strong enough yet, and winning tonight may help change that in January.
Tonight we saw an proper performance. Kuyt I thought had an excellent game, combining workrate, movement and good linking with the pure class that was Torres alongside him. I'm convinced that in the system we played tonight, they are our best strike partnership currently, and I believe that the overall stats for games won and goals scored by the team this season with each combination would bear that out. Arbeloa had another supremely composed performance, and I was very impressed by Benyoun's workrate on one wing, and the shape Kewell gives us on the other. Benitez has made mistakes so far this season, who doesn't, but tonight he got it spot on, and now we've got a proper European tie in Feb with one of the other big boys to look forward to, as well as having a team that is still as well placed to mount a serious league title challenge as we've had in many a season.
Bring on ManU on Sunday, and bring on Real/Barca/AC/Inter, this season could still yet be pretty damn special.
Very well put. just a shame you couldn't of posted it on page 2 as it would of been a great big dollop of common sense that this thread was badly in need of.
Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24
Very well put. just a shame you couldn't of posted it on page 2 as it would of been a great big dollop of common sense that this thread was badly in need of.
I could seriously abuse my admin powers and...... nah, on second thoughts, too much effort for this late hour
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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