Post match - Marseille

[red g]

It's not the fact that Kewell and Babel came on, it was that Torres and Gerrard were taken off - instead off say Sissoko and Voronin who were having sub par performances - when we were 3-1 down and there was still a chance of getting into the game.

This doesn't bother you one bit?

But what happens if in them twenty minutes Gerrard and torres were pushing under orders from Rafa really hard to get a winner and Torres tore a hamstring?

you may have been happy because we pushed for a winner but dont think it would have helpen in the bigger picture ( which i believe Rafa sees)

[AFII]

It's not the fact that Kewell and Babel came on, it was that Torres and Gerrard were taken off - instead off say Sissoko and Voronin who were having sub par performances - when we were 3-1 down and there was still a chance of getting into the game.

This doesn't bother you one bit?

What would you chose, three possible points against Reading or Mascherano?

That could have been the choice Rafa faced when he decided to make his subs, we don't know that.

Remember that you must make your choice 3-1 down in the game with 20 minutes left.

I think Mascherano will be more important for us the next five, six, seven years than a possible three points against Reading.

[Craig_H]

I will never understand how anyone can blame Rafa for anything against Reading.

We don't know all the facts, what G&H told Rafa before the game, if he would be sacked or get more or less no money to spend.

If I faced the sack or risked losing the transfer budget then I would have played with an even weaker team against Reading.

I think some people need to think more about the situation Rafa faced than only look at the three points against Reading.

We don't have the most clever owners you know.

Who else put Crouch and Voronin into positions they're incapable of playing?

[disco]

Torres had a knock.

All this bleating is over Gerrard being swapped for a winger.

[Craig_H]

What would you chose, three possible points against Reading or Mascherano?

That could have been the choice Rafa faced when decided to make his subs, we don't know that.

I love the way you base your entire argument on something you openly admit you dont know...

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

But what happens if in them twenty minutes Gerrard and torres were pushing under orders from Rafa really hard to get a winner and Torres tore a hamstring?

you may have been happy because we pushed for a winner but dont think it would have helpen in the bigger picture ( which i believe Rafa sees)

There's that kop out injury excuse again.

Also that doesn't wash with me when he risked Torres when he was clearly half fit against Arsenal.

If you were that afraid of players getting injured you'd never play them would you?

[Craig_H]

But what happens if in them twenty minutes Gerrard and torres were pushing under orders from Rafa really hard to get a winner and Torres tore a hamstring?

By this logic, we should never try to retrieve a defecit, for fear of the dreaded hamstring being torn.

[AFII]

Who else put Crouch and Voronin into positions they're incapable of playing?

They are not incapable of playing in that positions. We scored one goal, had two very good penalty appeals turned down and one against the post and one against the bar and created a few other chances.

It wasn't our attacks that didn't work, it was the defense.

[Craig_H]

There's that kop out injury excuse again.

Also that doesn't wash with me when he risked Torres when he was clearly half fit against Arsenal.

If you were that afraid of players getting injured you'd never play them would you?

Next time we go behind, we shouldnt try and bust a gut to come back - because someone might stub their finger too.

[Craig_H]

They are not incapable of playing in that positions. We scored one goal, had two very good penalty appeals turned down and one against the post and one against the bar and created a few other chances.

It wasn't our attacks that didn't work, it was the defense.

Open your eyes Wonder, they're incapable of beating a man and producing pace.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Torres had a knock.

All this bleating is over Gerrard being swapped for a winger.

Player who is our second top scorer, scored on the night being taken off, but with Sissoko and Mascher left on who only have one goal between them this season. 3-1 down and we're allegedly chasing the game.

[AFII]

I love the way you base your entire argument on something you openly admit you dont know...

Well, you base your arguments on things you don't know.....

[disco]

Can you guys stop saying we 'gave up' as an emotive way of backing up your piss-poor arguments.

Just stick to the facts - you're unhappy that Gerrard was taken off because you feel we had a better chance of winning or drawing with him on the pitch - Torres went off earlier with a knock/minor injury whatever it was.

Merci

[Craig_H]

Well, you base your arguments on things you don't know.....

Actually i dont.

You do though. And it's funny

[Craig_H]

Can you guys stop saying we 'gave up' as an emotive way of backing up your piss-poor arguments.

Just stick to the facts - you're unhappy that Gerrard was taken off because you feel we had a better chance of winning or drawing with him on the pitch - Torres went off earlier with a knock/minor injury whatever it was.

Merci

Oh give it up...

Just like your hero rafa did :bird: