Financial situation, doom & gloom reports etc

[Steve101]

Well im firmly in the Enemma camp here( is that rude??). Interesting that we can allinterpret the quotes and non-quotes into our way of thinking and of our impression of our owners. Also interesting that information 'from the ech sportsdesk' (for example) can be told to a mate, but not published. This stuff - as reported yesterday- would make the echo famous, but no, they keep it to themselves..................hmmmmmmmmm.

[enema of the state]

Who knows if it's true or not, G&H have lied before.

oh ffs......its all a machiavellian plot by these evil american gold-diggers to bleed the club dry and fob us of with anti-knowledge via the complicit media

get a life folks - there are more realistic things to worry about in life than twisting threadbare facts like these into horror stories

[kurtangle01]

oh ffs......its all a machiavellian plot by these evil american gold-diggers to bleed the club dry and fob us of with anti-knowledge via the complicit media

get a life folks - there are more realistic things to worry about in life than twisting threadbare facts like these into horror stories

Is right.

[AFII]

So he was lying then?

Oh dear...

Who knows. Last week Parry said one thing about the stadium one day and then an almost complete opposite thing a few days later.

oh ffs......its all a machiavellian plot by these evil american gold-diggers to bleed the club dry and fob us of with anti-knowledge via the complicit media

get a life folks - there are more realistic things to worry about in life than twisting threadbare facts like these into horror stories

I only pointed out that they will have to earn our love and trust by backing the club.

Rafa have said that he want a new deal, why not sort that out, give him a new deal to 2013 or 2014.

Would be a very good decision that would create stability on and off the pitch.

[kurtangle01]

Who knows. Last week Parry said one thing about the stadium one day and then an almost complete opposite thing a few days later.



I only pointed out that they will have to earn our love and trust by backing the club.

Rafa have said that he want a new deal, why not sort that out, give him a new deal to 2013 or 2014.

Would be a very good decision that would create stability on and off the pitch.

Why? He has two and a half years left. Plenty of time to sort out his deal.

[Gazzla]

did you see rafa's interview after he chelsea game? He was asked about transfer budget and he replied there was no money.

I've just seen Rick Parry interviewed on SSN and he said'We'll be as active in the transfer market as we've ever been if not more so. We're not about to go telling everyone in the public domain what our plans are though. Winning is what this club is all about and if the squad needs strengthening we'll do it. No question.

Perhaps he was lying?

I remember seeing Rafas interview and I cannot remember a direct quote which implied there was no money, in fact he was very careful not to commit himself.

Regardless of all the crap that is written in the media, if a player becomes avaliable that Rafa wants we wil make a bid. I also think it's a fair assumption that players will be sold in January for a good fee which will mean signing players is a necessity

[kurtangle01]

I remember seeing Rafas interview and I cannot remember a direct quote which implied there was no money, in fact he was very careful not to commit himself.

Regardless of all the crap that is written in the media, if a player becomes avaliable that Rafa wants we wil make a bid. I also think it's a fair assumption that players will be sold in January for a good fee which will mean signing players is a necessity

As Rick Parry said. 'We're not going to go telling everyone in the public domain what our plans are.' Which is what the club always does. We almost never reveal transfer targets and after seeing Parry interviewed I'm sure that he knows who Rafa wants and whether we can get them.

If and when a deal is there to do it'll be done. I have no fears about our future.

[kurtangle01]

I remember seeing Rafas interview and I cannot remember a direct quote which implied there was no money, in fact he was very careful not to commit himself.

Regardless of all the crap that is written in the media, if a player becomes avaliable that Rafa wants we wil make a bid. I also think it's a fair assumption that players will be sold in January for a good fee which will mean signing players is a necessity

P.S.

If Rafa had said there was no money it would have been splattered all over the papers.

[Gazzla]

As Rick Parry said. 'We're not going to go telling everyone in the public domain what our plans are.' Which is what the club always does. We almost never reveal transfer targets and after seeing Parry interviewed I'm sure that he knows who Rafa wants and whether we can get them.

If and when a deal is there to do it'll be done. I have no fears about our future.

That's damn true Kurt (or damn real as you now say in TNA , I guess it must be trademarked?) But yes I totally agree

[redlancer]

Rafa have said that he want a new deal, why not sort that out, give him a new deal to 2013 or 2014.

Would be a very good decision that would create stability on and off the pitch.

because if they had to sack him they'd loose a lot of money.

a lot of people would of been happy to see Ged get a long contract 2001/2002 time

we are a buisiness now and costs change on a daily basis and that business needs to adapt.

the stadium is a huge factor here and a huge cost and isn't it still bigger than the plans a year ago?

would we all prefer we go into administration to keep the fans happy

if the press could get the fans against the owners they'd have a field day and would sell more papers.

[kurtangle01]

That's damn true Kurt (or damn real as you now say in TNA , I guess it must be trademarked?) But yes I totally agree

Damn real?! Does he really say that now?

It's been years since I watched.

[Gazzla]

Damn real?! Does he really say that now?

It's been years since I watched.

Yes it's sad really, he even has his wife Karen making a complete tit out of herself as well. Bravo 2 at 9pm on Saturdays, it's quite sad how far he has fallen. I guess being drugged up to **** didn't help his cause either (allegedly)

[captainfog]

Top post mate.
There is no way everyone would have known what was going to happen with the credit situation, otherwise the stockmarket would have went haywire with the volume of people trying to conduct business to protect themselves.
Your post is very well written and makes alot of sense.
Some people can decide, we were promised this and we are not getting this, but there is a certain amount of understanding we have to have not just as LFC fans.

i disaageree pepole have known for along time the aevconomy was going to struggle this year. THis agenerally hapen in 5 year cylcles.

[bazza76]

i disaageree pepole have known for along time the aevconomy was going to struggle this year. THis agenerally hapen in 5 year cylcles.

Not to the extent that it has.

[Red22]

Firstly, I believe this guy Bond is telling the truth. He's been right in the past with this sort of stuff and clearly has some strong connections within the Banking sector. People may treat the nationals with a degree of skepticism (and rightly so) but they're much more likely to report the truth than, say, The Echo (who don't want to endanger their links with the Club).

Next, the Liverpool Board appears to be made up of six members (according to the Official site) - G&H, their offspring, Moores and Coco. I believe the "fierce opposition" is coming from Moores and Moores alone. Maybe Parry feels guilty over what he's done but I'm not gonna express my feelings towards that man right now.

Finally, they don't give a **** about the stadium anymore. The problems arise from the fact that our balance sheet can't handle both the acquisition debt and the stadium debt. So they've had to decide between the two - and they've chosen the acquisition debt. We could be commencing building the new stadium early in the New Year had they decided to retain the liability for the acquisition debt (as they promised). But instead they've decided to unload it onto the Club and postpone building the stadium.

Why?

As for this being normal practice for LBOs - it probably is. What distinguishes this however is that this buyout requires a huge initial capital expenditure (i.e. the stadium) - something which should rank above any desire to transfer the purchase debt onto the Club.