Benitez spending ?

[ivan]

Well, it's always a gamble spending big money on a very young players. I think Anderson is big hit, while Nani could be a flop. But spending 18m on Hargreavs is wasted money. He could be new Fergie's Veron. Babel has more chance then Nani to become world class,while between Lucas and Anderson I'd go for Anderson.But then again Lucas is much cheaper.

[Craig_H]

Babel has more chance then Nani to become world class.

Based on what?

[paulcooper4]

Based on what?

The fact he isnt a overweight stevie wonder lookalike with a penchant for banging brasses

[Craig_H]

The fact he isnt a overweight stevie wonder lookalike with a penchant for banging brasses

You talk zero sense, but as usual, you make me chuckle...

He's a jermaine jackson lookalike anyway, knuto

[ivan]

Based on what?

Based on his performances so far and goals scored compared to Nani

[Kilteragh]

Comparing our spending to the Scum is disingenuous.

Even if we had spent the same amount, Ferguson is starting from a better base. If he needs to buy a new striker or winger he can spend £20M. We may have the same amount to cover several positions because we have been deficient in several positions so we end up spending the same amount on more players but with less ability through no fault of Rafa's. He can only spend what he's got and he has had plenty of gaps to fill as well as trying to provide cover for those same positions.

Add the fact that he has had to revamp the academy and that costs money too and you can see that his plans involve the future as well as the present.

He is not a magician and sadly he needs a bucket of money to compete for the league.

[Alan Key]

If you type in "Man United Transfers" in google, then according to this site:

http://soccerlens.com/manchester-united-transfers-history-2003-2006/485/

03/04 - £2million gain

04/05 - £31million loss

05/06 - £10million loss

06/07 - £4million gain

So that's £35 million net spend up to the start of this season, in which according to the figures people are saying above, they've had a net spend of around £30million.

That is a total net spend of £65 million since 03/04. That isn't as much as we hoped. YES, they had a better base than us, but we still had more than able players, they don't spend that much more than us, if at all anymore.

We need fresh excuses and fast.

[Subby]

Benitez net spendings are about 70-80 million so far, that's correct. Mancs net spending this year was around 30 million, not 70. We are not behind them because of the transfer dealings for this or last year. It's previous years when they spent much more then us ( Rio, Rooney,Veron,Ruud....)

Thing is with the Champs League money we got, surely his spending is lower in ratio compare to that of Chavs and Scum..or has Gillette/Hicks et al siphoning off a wad to pay interest on the loan they took out

[The_weatherman]

If you type in "Man United Transfers" in google, then according to this site:

http://soccerlens.com/manchester-united-transfers-history-2003-2006/485/

03/04 - £2million gain

04/05 - £31million loss

05/06 - £10million loss

06/07 - £4million gain

So that's £35 million net spend up to the start of this season, in which according to the figures people are saying above, they've had a net spend of around £30million.

That is a total net spend of £65 million since 03/04. That isn't as much as we hoped. YES, they had a better base than us, but we still had more than able players, they don't spend that much more than us, if at all anymore.
We need fresh excuses and fast.

I think that's the point, we could never recoup any serious money from sales as Ged burdened the team the overpaid, overvalued, overrated duds and I think we took a big hit on the majority of his signings. I mean, Le Tallec, Biscan, Cisse, Cheyrou, Diao, Diouf were catastrophic, Dudek to a lesser extent (was on a rather high salary if I remember correctly), Kirkland and Heskey and probably more. He didn't put a lot of work in the youths so we didn't get any income there either.

[Exiled_red]

Even if we were only spending the same as them, our squad was in a worse state than theirs and as they only needed one or two players a season they could spend their whole budget on those players (Van Nistleroy, Veron, Ferdinand, Rooney, Carrick etc) whereas we need to sign 4 or 5 players with a similar amount of money to spend!

[ivan]

That's the point, they made difference with such players as Rooney, Rio etc. Ferguson was allowed to have one ore two super expensive signing per year. But he was also alowed to have flops like Veron who is the worst transfer deal in history.Imagine Rafa paying such money for a future failure and reaction in press, fans reaction, owners reaction.

[jack sonnelle]

Can I recommend that anyone who doesn't have an agenda with Rafa (i.e. are open minded), get hold of a copy of Paul Tompkins "Above Us Only Sky". This should be mandatory reading for any red, and indeed any hack / pundit who wants to have his tuppence worth without doing any serious research on Rafa.

The thought of losing this manager any time soon (and I mean the next 5 years) fills me with dread. Read "Above Us only Sky" and I'm sure you'll feel the same way (if you don't already). I only hope the Yanks have had a copy for Christmas.

[jack sonnelle]

Even if we were only spending the same as them, our squad was in a worse state than theirs and as they only needed one or two players a season they could spend their whole budget on those players (Van Nistleroy, Veron, Ferdinand, Rooney, Carrick etc) whereas we need to sign 4 or 5 players with a similar amount of money to spend!

Yep! And in Ferguson's fourth season (where Benitez is now), he spent mega bucks on the likes of Ince and Pallister. These later became stalwarts when Utd went on to win the league for the first time in 26 years - but were considered flops when Utd finished 14th (yes - 14th!) at the end of that season.

[CAD]

We need fresh excuses and fast.

How true. The best and the brightest on EST should hammer something together ASAP.

[bodmin]

Has anyone got a link to the website that shows all of Rafa's transfer dealings since he arrived and his net spending.

I was having an argument with some Mancs in work and could do with some figures.

Cheers