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    Originally posted by blacky View Post
    Disagree with that AF. Are you saying Belletti, Joe Cole, Wes Brown, Michael Carrick etc are world class?
    Joe Cole would improve our team no matter what you think of him as a person.
    You can agree with me, or you can be wrong.

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      Originally posted by DJS View Post
      Say what you will, if the manager cant choose his own team, you cant expect him to succeed.

      Neither of those players has looked the part in england.
      I dont want a manager that is so weak he allows himself to be forced to play players

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        Originally posted by Kilteragh View Post
        Joe Cole would improve our team no matter what you think of him as a person.

        He would I agree but I would not put him in the world class bracket as was suggested
        Dare we believe

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          Originally posted by MerseyCider View Post
          Oh boy, all the excuses are coming out in this thread...1 question Rafa backers:

          Do we win the league under Benitez (if he stays on) in the next 3 seasons?


          Rafa Backer
          I am a Rafa backer and proud. You should be one too.
          Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
          'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

          "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

          * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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            Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
            I dont want a manager that is so weak he allows himself to be forced to play players
            quite right too
            Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
            'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

            "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

            * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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              Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
              I dont want a manager that is so weak he allows himself to be forced to play players
              What other option is there? He either plays ball or gets sacked - Mourinho eventually got sacked.

              What would Rafa have done differently?

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                Originally posted by Marky19 View Post
                But we say that every ****ing season
                You're right, we do

                Unforunately Rafa thinks it's 2 central midfielders.
                Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                (1995)
                "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                  Originally posted by DJS View Post
                  I did say 'in my view' mate.

                  Yes i am sure that Mourinho will be our manager next season, based on a combination of a hunch and a couple of different snippets of info i've received (one of which i posted on here).

                  He's the best candidate simply because he's a born winner, he's totally driven, he has an obscene amount of confidence, to the point where the prospect of failing seems beyond the realms of possibility for him. He gets that same confidence into his players and they perform for him.

                  Today was as emphatic an example as ever that our current players arent playing for rafa.
                  And if by chance he doesn't win, perhaps because his squad isn't as good as he might need. How do you think he take that?

                  a) gracefully
                  b) spit the dummy
                  c) mentally disintegrate

                  I'll pick c). oops, time for another manager.

                  Personally I doubt very much that we will get Jose.
                  Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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                    Originally posted by DJS View Post
                    Rafa spoke out because they didnt see eye to eye on monetary issues.

                    IF they appoint Mourinho, i'm sure they'll make sure they've reached an understanding with him beforehand. They didnt appoint rafa, they inherited him. It's different if they're appointing the manager.

                    It might be that they simply dont trust rafa's judgement and therefore, they obviously wont back him financially. If they trusted JM's judgement, it's different isnt it? In which case, he may have no reason to speak out about the same things Rafa has done. It's all speculative.

                    As for players rolling around, i wouldnt particularly like it, but i also dont like being 5th in the table and being embarrassed by Luton.

                    It's not a perfect world, there's always things we wont like. We've done the 'nice losers' bit, i'm willing to see how 'unpopular champions' feels.

                    What sort of understanding are they going to throw onto the manager when they have had a crash course about football in the last 6 months?

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                      Do you really not understand what i meant by that?

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                        Originally posted by DJS View Post
                        Do you really not understand what i meant by that?
                        I do totally. I'm just pointing out that they're not in any position to trust or not trust Rafa's judgement when they themselves have admittedly just recently started watching 'soccer'.

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                          Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
                          I do totally. I'm just pointing out that they're not in any position to trust or not trust Rafa's judgement when they themselves have admittedly just recently started watching 'soccer'.
                          Well they actually are, by virtue of the fact that they own the club.

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                            They own the club, true, so they should know better than anyone that they need to listen and respect the man that has and will take us further.

                            If they don't have the money to back up their claims (the PC when they first took over) then that's a different scenario entirely.

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                              You're missing the point.

                              Regardless of what they *should* do, they own the club and they're in a position to do what they like.

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                                Originally posted by DJS View Post
                                Well they actually are, by virtue of the fact that they own the club.
                                They must be taking advice from people on the best way to do things etc...Obviousy they have a good idea on how to run a sports club because they own other clubs but they don't have much of an idea about footy.
                                When you consider that Parry's obviously the man giving them that advice it's not hard to realise why they know so little!!!
                                Babel fanclub member # 4!!!

                                **** OFF MOURINHO!!!!!!:whatever:

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