Boro V Liverpool - Post match thoughts and rants

[ronniedrew]

man utd 5 up

[Shaggy]

man utd 5 up

6

[AFII]

I think that Carra will be benched if Rafa signs Garay. I know that he loves the club to bits and always gives 100% but Garay is the better player, Agger is the better player. I don't know about Skrtel, time will tell on that one.

Carra also need a rest to sort out the problem he has. He clearly isn't 100% fit.

Agger and Garay, two ball playing central defenders. I can understand why we are linked with more central defenders.

The attacks start from the back and there isn't much our excellent central midfielders can do if our central defenders hoof away the ball almost all the time.

[Nic83]

6 actually!

[Marky]

A saturday to forget.

[Nic83]

I blame invisible forces

[Morph]

I made this post in another a thread, but it's better suited here:

my observations and a few things i've noticed this week:

Rafa in his press conference talking about all the prices he was quoted for players, would this happen with the mancs and chelsea? Would it ****, fergusson and abramovich would say i want x player get him now - case closed player signed. In our case the papers were reporting our mamoth 6.5mil signing as a record breaker, ****ing sad really.

If there's four certainties in Rafa's league life it's we won't beat Boro away, we won't beat a team managed by Steve Bruce, we won't beat the mancs hom/away, and if any team above us ****s up then so will we. We'll soon be able to add get ****ed over at stamford bridge and the emirates to that list.

One week we've got a squad full of quality and players who would get into any team in the world, the next we've got players lucky into a team managed by Roy Keane, is there a more up and down side in the league than us?

If we do sack Rafa will it really make any difference, unless we unearth an Arsene Wenger from somewhere, then whoever gets brough in will need cash for transfers, which we won't be able to provide, not in any great quantites anyway.

It's obvious we need a few wingers why can't we just go out and buy them and deal with the debt another time, or why don't the yanks take the debt on themselves, which brings me to...

Don't trust the yanks as far as I could throw them (not very far), imo not too interested in the team side of things, want to build the stadium, which we won't see any cash benefits from for about 4 years, thats a long time to go without winning the league is cash = league titles, i'd wager Rafa will not still be here.

Id we do perform **** this season and Rafa stays, does it show lack of ambition by the owners?

How can so many players all be out of form/eternally **** at the same time (Kuyt, Voronin, Alonso, Finnan, Riise, Sissoko)

Is Carra overrated and is Agger/Skrtel the future, i know he'll always give his all and defend for his life, but his clearances are really not very good and just heap pressure back on us, when what he needs to do is be a bit more intelligent with the ball sometimes.

Does Rafa still need to replace Pako Ayesteran, or at least someone to bounce tactical ideas off?

Are these questions only coming out because we've had another **** result in the league?
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[Shaggy]

I'm absolutely sick to the back teeth of hoofing it.

Peter Crouch's detractors like to cite this imaginary fault of ours that we "suddenly start launching it when Crouch is in the team".

Hello?

We hoof it whether he's in the team or not.

[JohnDoe]

I see Newcastle have stepped up after their manager was sacked. Good for them, proper club, proper players, proper fans.

[Kilteragh]

A saturday to forget.

teensy weensy ray of light that Ronaldo is my FF captain

[ronniedrew]

what i find truly baffling is that we seem to have gone backwards since the signing of torres, which I can't fathom.

The worrying thing is we're going back to the days of relying on owen to score our goals under houllier, and that to me is either a change in tactics or lazy ****ing players who are happy to leave the goalscoring to Torres and Gerrard

gerrard and mascher are not creative enough, cant control the tempo of the game, great players in their own ways, i think xabi must start and we need to play at least one real winger.


rafa doesnt know his best team, continues to give players like voronin games, and when he picks players and they play woeful, he is too proud or stubborn to sub them, i would have made 2 changes at half time today and gave the team an absolute bollocking, i wonder if this happened,


Maybe rafa needs a sammy lee or someone with him for key motivational speeches, sometimes i believe we lack motivation etc and it rerely changes after half time, when watching the team lately , you can gererally tell how the whole game will go after about 5 minutes (if you know what i mean)

[Imy]

I'm absolutely sick to the back teeth of hoofing it.

Peter Crouch's detractors like to cite this imaginary fault of ours that we "suddenly start launching it when Crouch is in the team".

Hello?

We hoof it whether he's in the team or not.

Its because the backline have no ball playing skills, add to them, Momo, Kuyt, Voronin, Crouch. The attackers have little pace bar Torres and Babel (who rarely starts) so the team are bloody clueless about how to break teams.

No pace and no slick passing = the current crap on show.

[AFII]

What I mean is we are capable of playing good football but we're not consistent enough and we're not aggressive enough. We sit back too much

We must sit back when Hyypia plays. He is to slow to allow the team to play with a high defensive line if we don't play against a **** team.

[rushscored4]

I blame invisible forces

Who said that?

[bigfooty]

Rafa in his press conference talking about all the prices he was quoted for players, would this happen with the mancs and chelsea? Would it ****, fergusson and abramovich would say i want x player get him now - case closed player signed. In our case the papers were reporting our mamoth 6.5mil signing as a record breaker, ****ing sad really.

Ferguson was kept on an extremely tight leash by the Glazer's after they took over until he won the title this past season. He may have spent 18M on Carrick last summer but he financed that by selling Van HorseFace, one of the best strikers the Premiership has ever seen who clearly is still up to the job given his performance in La Liga and in Europe.

It's about signing the right players for your team which Rafa just has not done.