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    Originally posted by Jazzmaster View Post
    Lets not forget that it was rafa himself that started all this razzmatazz with his press conference. That moment was the beginning of all this ****ing craziness. Unfortunately we wont see and end until the summer.
    The bloke in your avatar has obviously read all of this thread
    I live with Steptoe.

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      Originally posted by AFII View Post
      In short, Rafa has lost the dressing room. I said that weeks ago and was laughed at big time when I mentioned it.
      In short you have no idea if that's true and it seems more likely (because I don't know either) that the new owners have come and brought in a poisonous atmosphere.

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        Originally posted by tomasjj View Post
        How the hell can you know!!!!!!????


        FFS mate start THINKING before posting!!!


        So why have we played in the last games without any organization, no real hard work, no heart or passion?

        Luton out played us, Boro out played us.

        Rafa don't put out a team without it being organized, that will more or less never happen. They may not play any good but it will be organized.
        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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          I don't think rafa has lost the dressing room, it does look like this situation is a big distraction though.

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            Originally posted by AFII View Post
            So why have we played in the last games without any organization, no real hard work, no heart or passion?

            Luton out played us, Boro out played us.

            Rafa don't put out a team without it being organized, that will more or less never happen. They may not play any good but it will be organized.
            No proof that he has lost the dressing room.

            Speculation!!

            I am still waiting....
            --== Because the gang and the government is no different ==--

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              Someone is gonna get their arse kicked at footie practice in half an hour
              --== Because the gang and the government is no different ==--

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                Originally posted by AFII View Post
                In short, Rafa has lost the dressing room. I said that weeks ago and was laughed at big time when I mentioned it.
                You're on form today AFII.

                It's not good because it's rude. It's good because it looks like it's good because it's rude.

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                  Originally posted by AFII View Post
                  So why have we played in the last games without any organization, no real hard work, no heart or passion?

                  Luton out played us, Boro out played us.

                  Rafa don't put out a team without it being organized, that will more or less never happen. They may not play any good but it will be organized.
                  The way we've played is consistent with the players losing faith in the manager.

                  However, it doesn't prove it as there are other explanations...like the players being aware the manager's days are numbered.
                  .
                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                  May the Lord bless this post.

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                    Originally posted by disco View Post
                    Because they're professionals, not children.


                    Defender Sami Hyypia has called on Liverpool to put an end to rumours regarding manager Rafael Benitez's future.

                    Benitez's position at Anfield has been the subject of constant speculation since his much-publicised spat with owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks.

                    Hyypia is fed up of the rumours and fears it is affecting the whole team.

                    He told the Daily Mirror: "We seem to be becoming like Newcastle.

                    "Every time we pick up a paper, there seems to be something new. But our job is to concentrate on the games.

                    "In the football world there are some things that happen very quickly and you can't do anything about them.

                    "The players hope that if there are arguments, they can be sorted out."

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                      Maybe I'm wrong time will tell.

                      I only mentioned it because it's a possibility, not a big possibility but still, it can happen or may have happened.
                      Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                      According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                        Originally posted by AFII View Post
                        So why have we played in the last games without any organization, no real hard work, no heart or passion?

                        Luton out played us, Boro out played us.

                        Rafa don't put out a team without it being organized, that will more or less never happen. They may not play any good but it will be organized.
                        The thing is what do you mean by 'Rafa's lost the dressing room'?

                        Any number of things could add up to roughly the same result - the players could have lost faith in Rafa, the players might have picked up on a downbeat mood from Rafa (assuming he thinks he is going to be forced out), the players might be unsettled by the idea Rafa might be off (sort of the opposite in some ways of what you are implying). It is clear that they are not mentally right but it is far from clear how that relates to their relationship with Rafa.
                        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                        -- William Blake

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                          Originally posted by AFII View Post
                          Maybe I'm wrong time will tell.

                          I only mentioned it because it's a possibility, not a big possibility but still it can happen or may have happened.
                          That's not true. You said:

                          Originally posted by AFII View Post
                          In short, Rafa has lost the dressing room. I said that weeks ago and was laughed at big time when I mentioned it.
                          If you're going to go back on what you said at least have the decency to admit it.
                          .
                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            Originally posted by YNWA_IRE View Post
                            http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...045185,00.html

                            Defender Sami Hyypia has called on Liverpool to put an end to rumours regarding manager Rafael Benitez's future.

                            Benitez's position at Anfield has been the subject of constant speculation since his much-publicised spat with owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks.

                            Hyypia is fed up of the rumours and fears it is affecting the whole team.

                            He told the Daily Mirror: "We seem to be becoming like Newcastle.

                            "Every time we pick up a paper, there seems to be something new. But our job is to concentrate on the games.

                            "In the football world there are some things that happen very quickly and you can't do anything about them.

                            "The players hope that if there are arguments, they can be sorted out."
                            Well done Sami. This **** has to stop with the americans admitting they've been wrong and a full apology to Rafa.

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                              What I mean with lost the dressing room is that the players don't follow his orders on the pitch.

                              Nothing more than that.
                              Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                              According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                                If the manager/boss relationship is as badly strained as it appears how in hell did Rafa manage to spend £6.5 million of Hinge and Brackets money last week.

                                I'm going to be an optimist on this and hope a win against Luton will be the herald of a long winning run that may end all this speculation.

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